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Neuengamme concentration camp, then and now

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    The mentality of zhydokomuna or the identification of Jews with communism, was all pervasive in the Ukrainian nationalist mindset as it was all across Eastern Europe (Żydokomuna in Poland) as well as in Nazi propaganda with its rabidly anti-Semitic and lurid depictions of the Jüdischer Bolschewismus (Jewsih-Bolshevik) red terror.

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    Even if the oft quoted figures that imply 30%+ of the NKVD hierarchy could be described as of Jewish origin this still means the larger majority were NOT, but this fact was conveniently overlooked by the Nationalist right of Eastern Europe with its anti-Semitic agenda.

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    "Jewish Paws Again? Not ever!"—Polish poster 1919 during Polish-Soviet War.

    Apologies Carl, if this has taken the thread off on a tangent, please delete if not appropriate.
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    Quote by DougB View Post
    Carl your knowledge of the subject matter is superb. Are you by chance an author on the subject?
    Hi Doug, please see the link below for an update regarding a recent published work.

    Regards,

    Carl

    AFTER THE BATTLE No.162 - MY ARTICLE ON HOLLEISCHEN

    ...and staying with Neuengamme, here are two images, including one of the postal censor mark, on an example of camp mail from Neuengamme.
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    Today, 4th May 2014, marks the 69th anniversary of the liberation of KZ-Neuengamme. On this day in 1945, British troops entered the camp for the first time. Neuengamme satellite camps had already begun to close earlier, during March near the Dutch border and in April, many others including those in the Braunschweig and Hanover regions. In late April, around 4,000 Scandinavian prisoners were allowed to leave the camp on the famous "white buses" - a Swedish Red Cross action that Himmler had hoped would assist in his efforts to negotiate a ceasefire to avert an unconditional surrender by Germany. The last of the SS staff and all remaining prisoners left the main camp on 2nd May, with the tragic loss of thousands during the air raids just off the Neustadt coast occuring the following day. Allied aircraft targeted ships and the harbour, believing them to hold retreating German forces - yet over 9,000 former KZ inmates were crammed aboard. Only several hundred survivors managed to escape, the rest drowned, burned or were shot whilst attempting to flee. For three years after the war, the Neuengamme camp site was used as an internment camp. Later, the city of Hamburg established a prison on the grounds. Memorial grounds on the site have since expanded. The total death toll at Neuengamme is not known due to the attempted destruction of the records - yet it is known that by April 1945, 40,000 prisoners had died in the camp. However, the last few weeks brought great loss of life and it is possible that as many as 15,000 more victims died during this late stage of the camp's existence.
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    Quote by CARL88 View Post
    Today, 4th May 2014, marks the 69th anniversary of the liberation of KZ-Neuengamme. On this day in 1945, British troops entered the camp for the first time. Neuengamme satellite camps had already begun to close earlier, during March near the Dutch border and in April, many others including those in the Braunschweig and Hanover regions. In late April, around 4,000 Scandinavian prisoners were allowed to leave the camp on the famous "white buses" - a Swedish Red Cross action that Himmler had hoped would assist in his efforts to negotiate a ceasefire to avert an unconditional surrender by Germany. The last of the SS staff and all remaining prisoners left the main camp on 2nd May, with the tragic loss of thousands during the air raids just off the Neustadt coast occuring the following day. Allied aircraft targeted ships and the harbour, believing them to hold retreating German forces - yet over 9,000 former KZ inmates were crammed aboard. Only several hundred survivors managed to escape, the rest drowned, burned or were shot whilst attempting to flee. For three years after the war, the Neuengamme camp site was used as an internment camp. Later, the city of Hamburg established a prison on the grounds. Memorial grounds on the site have since expanded. The total death toll at Neuengamme is not known due to the attempted destruction of the records - yet it is known that by April 1945, 40,000 prisoners had died in the camp. However, the last few weeks brought great loss of life and it is possible that as many as 15,000 more victims died during this late stage of the camp's existence.
    Has always Carl, beautiful research work
    Thank you for keeping this thread alive.
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    Today, 4th May 2016, marks the 71st anniversary of the liberation of KZ-Neuengamme. Tens of thousands died in the camp and its system of satellites, with countless more experiencing all manner of untold horrors during the period of the camp's existence.

    The programme of commemorative events includes the following:

    MAY 2ND + 4TH - Public testimonies of survivors from several different nations

    MAY 3RD - Commemorative event marking 71st aniversary of the bombing of ships in the Bay of Neustadt (Cap Arcona Memorial)

    MAY 4TH - Meeting of the second and third generations (relatives of camp survivors)

    MAY 4TH - Commemorative ceremony at site of Wandsbek-Drägerwerke (former sub-camp of Neuengamme)
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    Odd, yesterday I bought a book about the Cap Arcona, called the Nazi Titanic

    Dean O
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    This is a superb book that dispels the myth that German soldiers, even the SS Einstazgruppen in Russia "just followed orders" because they feared repercussions. There were many that simply refused to murder innocent non-combatants. In most cases they were not disciplined, imprisoned or executed. It amazes me when I encounter individuals that seem to almost worship the SS. At one gun show I was talking to a dealer with a table next to another dealer that was selling Nazi items... specifically SS. He looked at me and said... "Don't people remember what these bastards stood for? Hell, I nearly died in France and Germany and I killed as many of them as I could. Yo have no idea what they did. I SAW what they did. And people admire this?" He was correct.
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    There also was a book written in Germany a few years back called " The Good Old Days" it shows the same thing, those that refused to shoot Victums suffered no punishment..

    That is a very good book to read.

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