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Kriegsmarine 2nd model Hörster and Kriegsmarine 1st model Alcoso - Need Authentication

Article about: Hello, I am a novice looking for help to identify if a kriegsmarine and reichsmarine dagger i have are real or repros. I am just posting pics of the KM dagger first to see what resolve comes

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    Question Kriegsmarine 2nd model Hörster and Kriegsmarine 1st model Alcoso - Need Authentication

    Hello, I am a novice looking for help to identify if a kriegsmarine and reichsmarine dagger i have are real or repros. I am just posting pics of the KM dagger first to see what resolve comes my way. I have pics of the other RM dagger to follow. They came from 2 different sources. Would appreciate any expertise.
    Regards,
    David
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    Kriegsmarine 2nd model Hörster and Kriegsmarine 1st model Alcoso - Need Authentication   Kriegsmarine 2nd model Hörster and Kriegsmarine 1st model Alcoso - Need Authentication  

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    Hello Noname1.
    The scabbard is WKC one. The blade is a fake imho.
    Best,
    Oleg.

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    Hi Oleg...could you ellaborate a little more without giving away too much information to the fakers , to why this blade is fake ...just 1 basic fact would be enough..which is all it takes to ruin a dagger.

    Your knowledge here is always highly regarded and honored.

    Regards Larry
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    Default Reply to Oleg, Thank you, if you would pics of RM Dagger

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    Hello Noname1.
    The scabbard is WKC one. The blade is a fake imho.
    Best,
    Oleg.
    Thank sir for you help. Would you please review the RM Dagger pics and let me know what you think , real or fake?
    Regards,
    David
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    Quote by Larry C View Post
    Hi Oleg...could you ellaborate a little more without giving away too much information to the fakers , to why this blade is fake ...just 1 basic fact would be enough..which is all it takes to ruin a dagger.

    Your knowledge here is always highly regarded and honored.

    Regards Larry
    Hi Larry,
    you have a PM.
    Best,
    Oleg.

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    Quote by Noname1 View Post
    Thank sir for you help. Would you please review the RM Dagger pics and let me know what you think , real or fake?
    Regards,
    David
    Hi Noname1,
    unfortunately is the RM dagger in my opinion a fake as well. Would you like to show a crossguard of the dagger?
    I am not at home now. I wil send a pisc of the Alcoso logo and a pommel for a RM dagger later.
    Best,
    Oleg.

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    Hello once again.
    Like promised a site from the book of Andrej Dolinin and me with a maker marks of the Reichsmarine daggers (above) and Kriegsmarine daggers(below).
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    …and here a few pictures of the Reichsmarine pommels. Please have a look at the base of the pommels and at the waves.
    Best,
    Oleg.
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    Good call Oleg, sharp eyes.

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    Default Picture of RM Dagger cross guard.

    Again Thank You Oleg, Sorry for slow response though I now know the final answer on this one. Here is the picture on the cross guard.

    Oleg, Would you allow me a clue to why the km dagger blade in your opinion is fake. I recently read that the engraving should be perfectly aligned in the middle of the blade as should the logo. I also wondered about the light shading of the engraving itself. Is that an issues? Would appreciate (as i already do) any clues.
    Best Regards,
    David
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