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Article about: This Kvk has a maker mark that i cannot fully recognise...it's seems to me a ''50'' but on other crosses on the web i have found different position (vertical/horizontal).

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    This Kvk has a maker mark that i cannot fully recognise...it's seems to me a ''50'' but on other crosses on the web i have found different position (vertical/horizontal).
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    Help with my Kriegsverdienstkreuz 1.Klasse ohne Schwerter  
    Last edited by rbminis; 08-01-2016 at 03:15 PM. Reason: Edited title to use the correct German terminology.

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    it is really hard to be sure with these distorted pictures. But I don't like it

    reagrds
    Tomasz

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    Please post straight on obverse and reverse photos if you really expect someone to give you an opinion if this is original or not.
    Ralph.
    Searching for anything relating to, Anton Boos, 934 Stamm. Kp. Pz. Erz. Abt. 7, 3 Kompanie, Panzer-Regiment 2, 16th Panzer-Division (My father)

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    Well

    Its a little hard to say, pictures with less glare and from the side of the hinge would help, but IMO its a good Karl Gschiermeister (50)
    I would wait for others though for a second opinion, but a cautious thumbs up from me

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    Hi again

    Here you can compare: [50] Karl Gschiermeister, Wien - KVK1 DNA

    Needle & maker's mark are different, in my opinion. I never found this cross with horizontal signature. And, in the GCA database of fakes is described a cross with similiar pin set like Yours above, as existing with signatures 50 & 51 (and w/o sign).

    regards
    Tomasz

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    Quote by tompress View Post
    Hi again

    Here you can compare: [50] Karl Gschiermeister, Wien - KVK1 DNA

    Needle & maker's mark are different, in my opinion. I never found this cross with horizontal signature. And, in the GCA database of fakes is described a cross with similiar pin set like Yours above, as existing with signatures 50 & 51 (and w/o sign).

    regards
    Tomasz
    Yes...the question that more concern me is the position of the maker mark , i never see a genuine Kvk with this horizontal signature. You're right...at 90% is a fake but we can wait for others opinions.

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    this is a photo of a KVK 1 that i found on a very very important site... it has the ''50'' in the same horizontal position. Is it a fake too?
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    Quote by Bauhaus71 View Post
    Yes...the question that more concern me is the position of the maker mark , i never see a genuine Kvk with this horizontal signature. You're right...at 90% is a fake but we can wait for others opinions.
    No, the position of MM is not the most important factor. Still the whole pin set is suspicious iMO.

    But I don't feel myself to be a big expert in this topic. However, I can ask also at the German Combat Awards forum, and show your pictures - if you are not regsitred there.

    reagrds
    Tomasz
    Last edited by tompress; 08-02-2016 at 02:51 PM.

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