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Kriegsverdienstkreuz: Good or bad?

Article about: Unfortunately you can never know unless you make the UV or burning test. Thanks Wolf.

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    What's the issue with the ribbons Ade?

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  3. #12

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    Hi Glenn, both are identical and both are badly folded.

    Cheers, Ade.

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    Hi Ade, I see what you mean about the folding. In my KVK collection below I have mint, unissued ribbons as you can see. Now if I had a few sherbets under my belt and was silly enough to attempt to fold them up i could easily mess the job up too but it doesn't make the ribbon a repo.

    I've read that original ribbon (apart from the black light test and the ash test) should show a particular pattern at the edge of the ribbon. The horizontal thread should return 180 degrees on itself? I hope i've explained that clearly. Can you offer any more clues to ribbon authentication?

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    Cheers
    Glenn

  5. #14

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    Hi Glenn, I cannot add much more, you have it covered.

    Cheers, Ade.

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    Thanks again Ade,

    So to sum up ribbon authentication:

    1) Black light test, nothing should glow.
    2) Burn a thread, it should ash not melt.
    3) The horizontal thread should turn 180 degrees on itself at the edge of the ribbon.
    4) It should smell old ( I sniffed my ribbons and they do smell like musty old Rayon)

    Cheers
    Glenn

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    Quote by Glenn66 View Post
    Thanks again Ade,

    So to sum up ribbon authentication:

    1) Black light test, nothing should glow.
    2) Burn a thread, it should ash not melt.
    3) The horizontal thread should turn 180 degrees on itself at the edge of the ribbon.
    4) It should smell old ( I sniffed my ribbons and they do smell like musty old Rayon)

    Cheers
    Glenn
    Just when i was about to ask about the ash thing i read the summery and i got covered.
    Thanks Glenn
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    I have done the test today. I wouldn't call it ash. The original-silk ones are burning leaving a soft charcoal edge. It's soft and brakes into pieces when you press it.
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    I agree with Ade on the ribbons being replaced,
    although they could be original NOS.

    The other items also look good to me.
    Last edited by Walkwolf; 12-22-2010 at 11:03 PM.
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    Quote by Walkwolf View Post
    I agree with Ade on the ribbons being replaced,
    although they could be original NOS.

    The others also look good to me.
    Hi Wolf, what does NOS stand for?
    Looking for the photo albums of Leutnant Emil Freitag, 3. / G.R. 377

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    Quote by donkihotis7 View Post
    Hi Wolf, what does NOS stand for?
    'New Old Stock'

    The ribbons may be original, but still replacements...........
    Regards,


    Steve.

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