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1st Model Luftwaffe dagger from classifieds for discussion

Article about: Hi Mpeg,, thank you for attending this discussion,,I am hopeful for more opinions on the etch itself as I feel the dagger itself is quite authentic. Regarding the etch ,,the photos provided

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    Hello Gents,, it has been brought to my attention that a Weyersburg 1st Luft dagger,,which appears in the classifieds,, has a questionable etching on the blade. Etched blades have always been a challenge for many members and a sharp eye including etched experience is needed to discern the difference between repro and authentic.....but also goes along with a 2 dimensional image compared to an in hand inspection. below are the pics in question...I feel overall the dagger itself is authentic..but my lack of etched experience I leave in the hands of those who studies this subject. Regards Larry
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    Last edited by Larry C; 01-26-2013 at 01:42 PM.
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    I believe this to be a post war etching made to deceive the unwary. Here's a link to dagger etching on a great dagger website that I have found to be invaluable. The differences in quality between good and bad are there for all to see.

    Getzte Klingen

    I have it translated by Google, I dunno if it has come across with the link.

    Regards, Ned.
    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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    Well,i'm not specialist,but i don't think is possible to tell if is good or bad from those pictures.BigNed,can you tell me why you think to be a post war etching?
    Thanks

    Stingray

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    Hi Ned thank you for the valuable link,, I will add it to this thread....Heer Dagger Reference Tools in Identifying and collecting.

    BTW..did you get the leftover prize from the Logo trivia thread..which was the back drop for Allens prize..the little cow necklace? You got what was behind it Regards Larry
    It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!! - Larry C

    One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C

    “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill

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    Look at the link closely. The crispness, depth and overall finish of the real deal is far superior to the bogus one that is illustrated below it. The one shown here is nearly identical in it's lack of finish and quality as to the fake in the link.

    Then again, that's my opinion, you may disagree! There are plenty more good and bad to compare here if you use the search facility at the top of the page.

    Regards, Ned.
    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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    I can't find 1st model luft in that website

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    Im with you Ned,

    The etching: i dont see the quality thats needed.
    Then let us discuss the dagger:
    Lets says it would be genuine, then the following question raises:
    The owner was proud enough to go the extra mile and pay for an etched weapon.
    Then he would be proud of it too!
    but......the weapon is not taken care after at all!!
    It just doesnt fit!
    no runner marks on the etch? why? this weapon most be pulled in and out numerous times, its an early model!
    IMO this etch is the last try to get decent money for a scrap dagger!

    Cheers Ger

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    Very bad fantasy.
    Paul Weyersburg never used etching blades on LW daggers.

    Regards
    Vedran

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    Hi all.. i am the owner of this dagger, and it is for sale... could someone help me estimate the price ? .. in both cases:

    1. The dagger is original, but etching is post war
    2. Both dagger and etching is wartime authentic

    Thank you very much

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    It's hard to say, because of the poor etching, blade is destroyed.
    Chain carriers also missing.
    Maybe 650USD.

    Reagreds
    Vedran

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