08-26-2013 12:52 PM
Hello, I donīt have too much experience with 1st. model Luftwaffe daggers, but I have to say that this dagger is not early example but probably early/mid period piece. Pommel and crossguard is very interesting, they seems to be E-pack or W.K.C. produced, because these producers has very interesting fittings made from copper, Emil Voos produced some of this early/mid period daggers too and this yours dagger look very similar to them. If scabbard bands are made from iron, or they are magnetic it is possible that scabbard belong to this dagger.
Photos are not very good, so that is why I can be sure, but in my opinion this dagger is authentic and nonpartial (except wire on grip). But pommel seems to be from different material if I compare it to crossguard, or it is the same?
The second type blade logo has been seen with nickel fittings and ALU guard but the inserted Swastika is different.
Its not the standard Herder guard, thats why i call its a parts dagger.
Its not an early manufactered one, compare it to mine.
Im certainly not convinced that this is an all Herder parts 1st luft.
Mismatching material, pommel, crossguard and scabbard fittings.
If you want to buy an early 1st then buy a good one.
Therefore my advise: dont buy it.
hello dear members,
Thank you for your answwers
i expected more opinions^^
i can have it for 300 ,i think it still in good shape even if it's a part dagger compare to some i have already seen.
i don't know what to do
any additionnal opinions are welcome
@peter, can you give me your sources where i can find infos about the E-pack or W.K.C productions you are talking about because if you're correct i don't want to miss it !
What can i do to proove that is this kind of dagger ?
Hi Thai, now I canīt find photos of daggers which has similar copper plating pommel and crossguard. I is only on your decision if you buy this dagger or not. But my advice is to spend some more money and purchased better one textbook example. So conclusion is - donīt buy it, get better example!
Not being funny or trying to be condescending, but I would heed the words of Gerrit, if I was you,he does have a very extensive knowledge of TR edged weapons
Thx for the kind words Dave
Better save your money and go for a textbook early 1st pattern, so with early nickel fittings and crossguard and pommel.
Or go for the all Aluminium 1st pattern, they are cheaper but they match the time period.
Please dont go for the mixed Nickel and alu versions, they will be hard to sell afterwards when you would like to sell or trade it, BECAUSE you will upgrade this piece in the future.
I'll keep my money then!
thanks for your expert advises ,I'm a novice I still need education .
I'll look for an full aluminum if I see one !