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Luftwaffe 2nd pattern Dagger advice and review please

Article about: Hi everyone, My first post in this Forum so I hope you can help me. I acquired this dagger off a friend who's dad used to collect WW2 items. I believe this is a 2nd pattern Luftwaffe dagger

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    First, it is important to note that we can not compare two different crossguards of second Model Luftwaffe dagger.

    I can make a comparison of crossguard in this topic, with the most common fake crossguard.

    Fake crossgard:

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    Crossguard in these topic:

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    Differences are also veasible in the pommel and scabbard details.

    Fake pommel/scabbard:

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    Pommel/scabbard in these topic:

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    After all, a few photo of another 2. model Luftwaffe dagger pair produced by Schuttelhofer & C0 Solingen:

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  3. #12


    My concern is the blackened or artificial Patina that is present on the pommel and crossguard.... Other than the details in difference we like to search for in authenticating. I'm still not liking it and one can not say these 2 parts are in mint condition due to the black patina. That would in turn mean they were period made. This would then be called parts dagger. I have not seen any period mint 2 nd Luftwaffe daggers with this dark and "Glazed costed " application. I have seen these in junk shops for $20. I would say the rest of the dagger is period.. The crossguard with the added name and pommel are recent. Regards Larry
    It is not the size of a Collection in History that matters......Its the size of your Passion for it!! - Larry C

    One never knows what tree roots push to the surface of what laid buried before the tree was planted - Larry C

    “The farther back you can look, the farther forward you are likely to see.” - Winston Churchill

  4. #13


    On the pommel and crossguard are visible traces of cleaning.
    The result is lack of patina on the exposed areas.


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