I totally agree with you ian, I didn't really mind that it was in kind of rough condition, because I already have an almost mint cond. Luger on my wall. I've been wanting a good "shooter" for so long! And I know what you mean about the recoil, it felt more like I was shooting an M1911 rather than a 9mm But I will say that this is the best shooting pistol that I have ever shot, and I've shot quite a few...