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Grey visor cap Real or Fake?

Article about: a different tho sort of related world, and very interesting. it's good that folks are following the detritus of the nva. actually, some of this material is quite good-looking; tho a good dea

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    Default Grey visor cap Real or Fake?

    A gentleman has several visor caps for sale. Most of what he has is post war. His brother was supposedly part of the US Army occupation force and he remained in Germany throughout the 1950's. There is one WWII visor cap amongst them (back right) and I wanted to know what arm of the Heer the color denotes and if it is real. All of the NVA marked hats I've been finding are post war but I'm new to this.
    Thanks for the help!
    Brandon
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    Default Re: Grey visor cap Real or Fake?

    its NVA east german

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    Unfortunatley they all are post war.

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    NVA = Nationale Volksarmee der Deutschen Demokratischen Republik, 1956-1990 Ruhet sanft.

    Below, real grey SS cap..... picture: Bill Shea
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    damit, basta.

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    yes NVA, DDR....post war caps

    Sebastien.

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    One of the easiest ways to "tell" a DDR cap is the lack of piping on the bottom. Most are piped on the crown and top of the band only. The ones with the heat-transfer (not sewn) sweatdiamonds are the most common, and date from about 1985 on. (prior to that they used celluloid).
    They are always date coded--the letter means a specific year of production.

    NVA visors from the period 1956-59 are the rarest, and most valuable. They used a tri-color cockade, and waffenfarbe, and the insignia was all-bullion for officers. They are almost of the quality of the TR ones, and are heavily padded.

    The ones from 1960 to about 1965 used bullion wreaths, but with the DDR cockade in metal in lieu of the tri-color.

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    Quote by stonemint View Post
    One of the easiest ways to "tell" a DDR cap is the lack of piping on the bottom. Most are piped on the crown and top of the band only. The ones with the heat-transfer (not sewn) sweatdiamonds are the most common, and date from about 1985 on. (prior to that they used celluloid).
    They are always date coded--the letter means a specific year of production.

    NVA visors from the period 1956-59 are the rarest, and most valuable. They used a tri-color cockade, and waffenfarbe, and the insignia was all-bullion for officers. They are almost of the quality of the TR ones, and are heavily padded.

    The ones from 1960 to about 1965 used bullion wreaths, but with the DDR cockade in metal in lieu of the tri-color.
    Do you have any NVA caps from 1956-9? Please show us.

    Such objects would be much more rare than Wehrmacht Heer caps, surely.

    The final species of NVA cap from the 1980s is not an especially impressive object from the standpoint of handmade or early machine made headwear, surely. Keine deutsche Wertarbeit.

    I collected a lot of NVA thingies at the time in 1989-1990 and still have them wrapped in large plastic bags. The fun part was when the NVA people would sell their uniforms in front of the Brandenburg gate, as in the black market in the era of Harry Lime and the 3d Man.


    Happy head wear.
    damit, basta.

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    This online catalog has some good period pictures.
    Gowen Militaria - America's Original East German Specialists
    Also this forum
    The K98 Mauser & G41-G43 Forum Boards - Gunboard's Forums
    Nothing wrong with DDR militaria, abundant and can be very cheap.

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    Not mine, but a nice example of a 1956-59 DDR Pz piped tunic/visor:
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    A nice artillery set-up (I think this is Mike Gallaghers):
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