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    I was hoping that someobody could tell me what these "tinnies" were for. I am especially interested in #4. I know that is a stylized SS, and an emblem for a foreign SS unit. What else was it? #4 is made from wood, or plastic. The rest are metal. Thanks
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    # 1 is from the Volksbund für das Deutschtum im Ausland (VDA) [National League for German Culture Abroad].
    The Sütterlin inscription says: "Den Brüdern im bedrängten Land - warmfühlend Herz, hilfreiche Hand" (= "To the brothers in beset land - warm-feeling heart, helping hand")
    A present-day incarnation of this association still exists under the name of Verein für Deutsche Kulturbeziehungen im Ausland. See Verein für Deutsche Kulturbeziehungen im Ausland - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for more.

    # 2 is from the Innere Mission [= Inner Mission], a Protestant religious/charitable initiative. See Inner mission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia for more.

    # 3 is a donation badge from the Winterhilfswerk (WHW) [Winter Relief].
    The inscription says "Aufwärts aus eigener Kraft" (Upwards from one's own strength)

    # 4 is not a stylized "SS", but a Wolfsangel (Wolf's Hook). This item is also a WHW donation badge.

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ID:	150930My God HPL2008 I can't believe the depth of your knowledge are you a professor of history ? A few days ago I posted a postcard from the 1934 Hochland Hitler Youth camp in 1934 I would love to get a translation of what the young man was saying 75 years ago.Again I am impressed

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    Thanks for your time & help! So the wolfsangel is not another type of SS symbol? What does it represent?

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ID:	150930My God HPL2008 I can't believe the depth of your knowledge are you a professor of history ? A few days ago I posted a postcard from the 1934 Hochland Hitler Youth camp in 1934 I would love to get a translation of what the young man was saying 75 years ago.Again I am impressed
    Looks like a HJ camp-out in 1934.

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    Thanks for your time & help! So the wolfsangel is not another type of SS symbol? What does it represent?
    It is a runic symbol.
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    My God HPL2008 I can't believe the depth of your knowledge are you a professor of history ?
    Many thanks for your kind words, but I am not, and would never pretend to a historian. I am really just an interested amateur.
    And, truth be told, I did not have that data all crammed into my head. Actually, the only thing I had recognized from memory was the VDA logo, while the Innere Mission tinnie was simply identified by the text on it.
    I could identify the WHW "eagle" tinnie by Google-ing its inscription while the clue to the "Wolfsangel" tinnie was provided by simple gut instinict: I had a feeling it might just be WHW-related too, google-d the search term "WHW Wolfsangel" and came up with other examples.

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    A few days ago I posted a postcard from the 1934 Hochland Hitler Youth camp in 1934 I would love to get a translation of what the young man was saying 75 years ago.Again I am impressed
    Now you've really got me. Decyphering handwriting is by far my weakest point, especially when it comes to Sütterlin script! (The VDA tinnie with its precise "printed" Sütterlin was a bit easier, but still took me some minutes to read...)
    I gave the postcard a go, but unfortunately, I am afraid there are quite a few blanks left.
    Perhaps other members will be able to fill them in:

    "Lieber Alfred!
    Deine
    [...] ist natürlich [...]
    [...] Ich danke Dir bestens dafür.
    Ich habe Dir auch schon längst geant-
    wortet. Es kann nur sein, daß die
    Karte nicht abgegangen ist weil
    ich sie durch
    [...] Jürgen abge-
    schickt habe der die Briefmarke erst
    daraufkleben mußte. Uns geht es
    sehr gut
    [...] dienstliches [...]
    Wetter dürfte besser bleiben.
    Auf Wiedersehen!
    Gruß Karl
    "

    ...meaning:

    "Dear Alfred!
    Of course, your
    [...] is [...] My best thanks for it. I have already answered you quite a while ago. It is only possible that the card was not posted, because I had it mailed by [...] Jürgen, who had to stick the postage stamp on it first. We are very fine here. [...] duty- [...] Weather should stay better. Good Bye! Greetings, Karl."

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    Thank you so much,I am always fascinated by what these young me are saying,but as you could see this card could be from any young person away at camp.

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    Quote by ww2fotos View Post
    Looks like a HJ camp-out in 1934.
    Correct; the first Hochlandlager (Highlands Camp) by Murnau in Upper Bavaria.


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    Thanks for your time & help! So the wolfsangel is not another type of SS symbol? What does it represent?
    That's a bit complicated, as the Wolfsangel was/is used in many different design variations with many different meanings by many different groups...

    To get you started, see:
    Wolfsangel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Symbols.com - Symbol 15:12
    Symbols.com - Symbol 34:9
    Symbols.com - Symbol 16:19
    Norse Rune Symbols and the Third Reich

    and, in German:
    Wolfsangel
    wolfsangel

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    Quote by HPL2008 View Post
    Correct; the first Hochlandlager (Highlands Camp) by Murnau in Upper Bavaria.




    That's a bit complicated, as the Wolfsangel was/is used in many different design variations with many different meanings by many different groups...

    To get you started, see:
    Wolfsangel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Symbols.com - Symbol 15:12
    Symbols.com - Symbol 34:9
    Symbols.com - Symbol 16:19
    Norse Rune Symbols and the Third Reich

    and, in German:
    Wolfsangel
    wolfsangel
    I was partially right. The wolfsangel (AKA Donnerkeil) was used by the Dutch Nazi Party, and a British Nazi Party - according to Symbol 34:9.

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