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Der Rhein Deutschlands Strom Tinnie: Info Help

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    Question Der Rhein Deutschlands Strom Tinnie: Info Help

    Hi, all. I was wondering if anyone could give me a quick bit of info on this tinnie/day badge as I haven't been able to come up with much other than the translation.

    Thanks,
    Adam
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    Default Re: Der Rhein Deutschlands Strom Tinnie: Info Help

    The inscription "Der Rhein, Deutschlands Strom" (= "The Rhine, Germany's River") appears to be a reference to "Der Rhein, Deutschlands Strom, nicht Deutschlands Grenze" (= "The Rhine, Germany's River, not Germany's border") which was a work by the German author and poet Ernst Moritz Arndt (1769-1860) in which he demanded the German-speaking Rhineland to be detached from France.
    Arndt had held strong nationalistic, anti-French and anti-Semitic views and thus was held in high regard by the Nazis.

    I cannot make a positive ID of the event for which this item was issued, but if I had to make a guess, my theory would be that this tinnie has something to do with the German re-militarization of the Rhineland in 1936.

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    Default Re: Der Rhein Deutschlands Strom Tinnie: Info Help

    Perhaps even the well documented NSDAP Hydro-Electric programme ?

    Controlling and harnessing the power of the Rhein ??

    Regards,

    David

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    Perhaps even the well documented NSDAP Hydro-Electric programme ? Controlling and harnessing the power of the Rhein ??
    Interesting idea, but I really don't think that is the answer. A strong fist grabbing a nasty, venomous snake... That's just not the kind of symbolism one would use for harnessing the power of a mighty river.

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    Default Re: Der Rhein Deutschlands Strom Tinnie: Info Help

    The forked tail looks a little odd for a snake. Could it possibly be the mythical 'Tatzelwurm' of German, Swiss, Alpine France and Italian folklore?

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    Default Re: Der Rhein Deutschlands Strom Tinnie: Info Help

    Thanks for the replies, guys and turning out to be an interesting discussion of what is in my opinion an unusual little day/event badge...never seen one like it before. You'll notice, David that I have corrected my "tinnie" slip

    Best,
    Adam

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    Hens Teeth Adam "...you'll notice, David that I have corrected my "tinnie" slip...", I hope that I do not come across as a finger wagger ! Call these super and often very interesting badges what you are comfortable with. I just feel that these little fellows should be afforded a little more dignity and respect than that given by the clumsy collective of "tinnies".

    By the way, I have found this badge in "Tieste" under D for Deutschland and absolutely no information.

    Regards,

    David

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    Default Re: Der Rhein Deutschlands Strom Tinnie: Info Help

    Thanks again for the replies, guys and for the research, David. It has turned out to interesting and enigmatic little piece and by "hen's teeth" (not a term we use a lot in the states) I assume, David that you believe it to be very uncommon/rare. By the way, in no way do you come across as "finger wagging" and I completely agree!

    Best,
    Adam

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    Default Re: Der Rhein Deutschlands Strom Tinnie: Info Help

    Adam

    How right you are - an enigmatic little piece !

    I hope that it will only be a matter of time toward your identifying this badge, be it via this (hopefully) or any other discussion group.

    Apologies if I perhaps mislead, however I do not think you will be able to retire on the proceeds of any future sale.

    Attached is the relevant entry from Tieste and as you can see, a nominal value has been set at Euros 25, suggesting now, add 50% to 65% as a minimum for current market value (in my opinion).

    Regards,

    David
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    Default Re: Der Rhein Deutschlands Strom Tinnie: Info Help

    Thanks for the image, info and opinion, David. Not to worry...not mislead in the least. My only hope was to perhaps acquire this little enigma for a good price and hold onto it for the curiosity, and of course, history. Fingers crossed that I'll be able to get it at this auction for about $25-$30 all incl.
    Yes, hopefully an answer might be generated here first In the meantime, I did post it on WAF but as of yet absolutely nothing!

    Anyways...we shall see.
    Thanks again,
    Adam

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