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Article about: Hi Forum A seller wants to sell me this Kyffhäur for about 15 Euro, I do not know this type, do anyone know ? Regards John

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    Hi Forum
    A seller wants to sell me this Kyffhäur for about 15 Euro, I do not know this type, do anyone know ?
    Regards
    John
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    Hi John, while original, I think you will find this is post war.

    Cheers, Ade.
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    Hi Ade
    Thank you for your info, yes it might be post war, I found a similar one on german Ebay but it was sold, so all the info was gone. If it is post war then I have no interst in the item
    regards
    John

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    definitely postwar.

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    Dear John

    I agree with the comments from both Ade and Harry, insofar as the example that you have shown is almost certainly a post 1945 item.

    This oval badge was however manufactured and worn during the Weimar era.

    Attached is a photo merge of your badge and one that I hold (emblem to a buckle) and where the differences in detail to include the beading which supports the oval, are quite striking.

    Regards and best wishes,

    David
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    Are you all sure about it being post-war?
    Exactly the same badge was worn in about 1930 with the visored
    cap by youngsters and leaders from the Kyffhäuser-Jugend.
    It is shown in their cataloque about uniform and equipment!

    The same enameled badge was also positioned onto the middle of
    their gorget. And as far as I remember it is also in the F.W. Assmann
    cataloque as article number 21285 (45 mm) positioned onto a
    buckle, which does not have an indication!
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    The Ruptured Duck has one listed as Pre-Third Reich
    M-349 Pre-Third Reich Veteran

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    I know. It exists with a safety-pin and prings, but why the
    different colors for the edge, I have not found out yet!

    They call it veteran, but it is for the youth of the organization
    (there were boys and girls involved)!
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Here is a past thread where the interest essentially lies in showing images of period catalogues.

    'Kyffhäuser'

    Regards and best wishes,

    David

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    The issue was if the oval was post or pre-war and I just noted where such symbol was to be found. Just like that!

    Due to new preparations for a book I cannot show the gorget with the oval symbol from the regulation/cataloque
    from the Kyffhäuser-Jugend (Bund).
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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