Kyffhäuser ?

**johnschou** · 03-22-2015, 12:35 PM

Hi Forum
A seller wants to sell me this Kyffhäur for about 15 Euro, I do not know this type, do anyone know ?
Regards
John

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 03-22-2015 12:35 PM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**Adrian Stevenson** · 03-22-2015, 12:45 PM

Hi John, while original, I think you will find this is post war.

Cheers, Ade.

**johnschou** · 03-22-2015, 12:50 PM

Hi Ade
Thank you for your info, yes it might be post war, I found a similar one on german Ebay but it was sold, so all the info was gone. If it is post war then I have no interst in the item
regards
John

**harryamb2** · 03-22-2015, 09:09 PM

definitely postwar.

**David North** · 03-30-2015, 01:37 PM

Dear John

I agree with the comments from both Ade and Harry, insofar as the example that you have shown is almost certainly a post 1945 item.

This oval badge was however manufactured and worn during the Weimar era.

Attached is a photo merge of your badge and one that I hold (emblem to a buckle) and where the differences in detail to include the beading which supports the oval, are quite striking.

Regards and best wishes,

David

**Wilhelm Saris** · 03-30-2015, 02:12 PM

Are you all sure about it being post-war?
Exactly the same badge was worn in about 1930 with the visored
cap by youngsters and leaders from the Kyffhäuser-Jugend.
It is shown in their cataloque about uniform and equipment!

The same enameled badge was also positioned onto the middle of
their gorget. And as far as I remember it is also in the F.W. Assmann
cataloque as article number 21285 (45 mm) positioned onto a
buckle, which does not have an indication!

**wizardman** · 03-30-2015, 02:30 PM

The Ruptured Duck has one listed as Pre-Third Reich
M-349 Pre-Third Reich Veteran

**Wilhelm Saris** · 03-30-2015, 02:36 PM

I know. It exists with a safety-pin and prings, but why the
different colors for the edge, I have not found out yet!

They call it veteran, but it is for the youth of the organization
(there were boys and girls involved)!

**David North** · 03-30-2015, 04:57 PM

Here is a past thread where the interest essentially lies in showing images of period catalogues.

https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/germa...haeuser-12854/

Regards and best wishes,

David

**Wilhelm Saris** · 03-30-2015, 07:51 PM

The issue was if the oval was post or pre-war and I just noted where such symbol was to be found. Just like that!

Due to new preparations for a book I cannot show the gorget with the oval symbol from the regulation/cataloque
from the Kyffhäuser-Jugend (Bund).