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    Here's something that has arrived from one of our kind and esteemed board members, who was exceedingly generous and even sent an original bag with it (also pictured below). For the forum archives, this is my very first cufftitle of any kind, an Ordensburgen cufftitle.

    I haven't found any photos of this particular cufftitle in wear, and the photos I have found look to be the brown version. Are there known photos of this type on a uniform?

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    Last edited by avenger; 05-01-2015 at 04:40 AM.
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    like it,but whats it for.?

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    The cuffitle? There were 3 castle like schools where I believe wealthy young adults were taught and groomed to become NSDAP political leaders.

    From Wiki:

    In Nazi Germany, the NS-Ordensburgen ("National Socialist Order Castles", singular Ordensburg), also called Schulungsburgen, were schools developed for elite Nazi military echelons. There were strict requirements for admission to the schools. Junker candidates had to be aged between 25 and 30 years old, belong to either the Nazi Party, the Hitler Youth, the Sturmabteilung, or the Schutzstaffel, be physically completely healthy, and be pure-blooded with no hereditary defects.

    The schools themselves were typically stark, modern structures with extensive facilities. Vogelsang, for instance, reportedly contained the world's largest gymnasium at the time. Each student attended all four institutions in sequence, for specialty training, finishing in Marienburg for training that included live-fire military exercises.

    The three institutions for education of political leaders and their educational focuses were:

    Ordensburg Vogelsang in North Rhine-Westphalia - focus: racial philosophy of the new order;

    Ordensburg Sonthofen in Bavaria, Allgäu, built 1934 - focus: administrative and military tasks and diplomacy; the facility was used by Germany's Bundeswehr until end of 2007.

    Ordensburg Krössinsee in Pomerania; focus: development of character;

    According to the training model the disciples had to spend one year at each castle in order to become familiar with each educational focus.

    A fourth Ordensburg was planned at (the historic) Ordensburg Marienburg, in West Prussia, which was to be established at the medieval Malbork Castle.
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    There were different cuff titles for the individual institutions; I have seen photographs of the "Vogelsang" and "Krössinsee" ones in wear.

    As far as I know (and I will gladly stand corrected here), the use of the cuff title with the generic term "Ordensburgen" is not known, but it is generally believed to have been for personnel involved in the overall administration and running of the whole Ordensburgen system.

    (Although, personally, I think another possibility is that it either preceded the individual cuff titles or was intended to replace them.)

    I don't think I ever saw a period photo of that one in wear, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

    Grenadier Mlitaria currently has a uniform with that cuff title for sale, by the way.

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    Interesting HPL2008. I wonder if that is period applied...
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    This is the best I could find. I have other photos showing staff with cuff titles, but they don't show enough detail.



    I believe that is a brown version of the cuff title.

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    That's the best I've seen yet for a period photo. If you don't mind, I'd like to save that to my computer to keep with the photos I took.
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    Sure, it is a detail from this photo:

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    These were worn 1937-39 by the RAD Personnel training at the Ordensburgen; RAD-Service was mandatory for all German Youth, the cadets were not exempt...Note the similarity to the RAD Emsland Cufftitle...
    The brown version was worn by the actual Ordensburg-Staff...
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    They are quite similar aren't they?
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