Regarding the patina, I've never seen a rust color on anything of this composition. Everything about it just reads 'new.' I think it would fool many people on a generally reputable website like CG, though.
02-19-2014 04:06 PM
Well to be fair, it is not really their fault. I know how that sounds but it isn't really. None of these "dealers" are specialists on anything, they just list what they have as they see it listed on other dealers sites. So just pretend that the story on the collectors guild is true, that all their stock does actually pass a board of experts first... who are these experts? their friends, maybe forum contacts or people who they think are knowledgeable from shows etc.. now where are these experts looking and doing their research? ON THE INTERNET, looking at MAX show dealers, looking at Helmut Weitze, looking at all the big names they think are top dog today, and they find? They find the same crap listed there!!! so that is enough, thats the green light for them to go ahead and list their junk.
NONE of these top dogs knows anything tangible.. it`s copy and paste all the way.
To try and put blame on any one dealer or person is probably wrong. As much as we may think that we know which dealers are listing these fakes on purpose, we dont, and in all probability there are no evil thoughts behind the listed fakes that we find on sites like CG. They just get listed as good because most dealers list them as well, and in many cases these fantasy and fake items have been in-print for ages.
It is a no-win situation for the honest, i would suggest to leave the shepherds alone, and let them feed their flock with whatever they so desire.
There are excellent books out there for collectors and dealers, if they cant be bothered to invest in them, thats not our problem.
With so much fakery and modification there is today, it is impossible for any dealer to be expert on all of the fakery available in today's market. That is why it is important that any collector do his homework before parting with funds.
LIFE'S LOSERS NEVER LEARN FROM THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS.
Thanks Jo. They are getting better at their craft. I would have
been taken in because of that reasonably legit looking maker
mark on the back - though it's not something that
I would be interested in.
Most dealers take in consignments - and as Bob said, no one
can be expert in all areas of the hobby, so some stuff slips
through the cracks. The key really, is to educate
Agreed. Like I said above, I usually only point out fakes because the dealers may want to know the truth. I know I would. I have no interest in owning any fakes, and even less in selling them.
by BOB COLEMAN
That is very true. One downside of forums like these is that collectors and fakers alike learn how to differentiate good from bad. Prices will continue to rise and the fakes will get harder to spot. I'm glad to have gotten into the hobby now, when most Parteiabzeichen at least are real, and the fakes are easy enough to spot.