SA Collar Tab ( Black ) Unit tab

[tony75]

Hello
What are your thoughts on this tab?
Black is for ( Berlin & Brandenburg)?
Most of these tabs have sewn on numbers and letters correct?
Thank you
Tony

[rbminis]

NSKK?
Ralph.

[HPL2008]

NSKK?

Yes. Motorsturm 23 of Motorstandarte 157.

The black color has no geographical signifcance; all NSKK collar patches were black except for those of the Korpsführung (which included inspectorates and national schools), which were carmine.

Metal numbers and letters were typical for the NSKK.

[real steel]

Most have metal #'s & letters.

[tony75]

Hello
Thank you very much
I forgot about the NSKK
Thanks again
Tony

[Pascal BERNHARD]

Yes. Motorsturm 23 of Motorstandarte 157.

The black color has no geographical signifcance; all NSKK collar patches were black except for those of the Korpsführung (which included inspectorates and national schools), which were carmine.

Metal numbers and letters were typical for the NSKK.

157, MotorStandarte of Strassburg / STRASBOURG France, annexed french territory (Elsass, Alsace).

[Wilhelm Saris]

Not SA, but as said NSKK. If the numbers are orginally to the patch
is the question!

When the Motor-SA was incorporated within the NSKK for the time
being the old colors for the collar-patches were used and officially
described in the dress-regulation from January 1935. For about one
year within the NSKK these colors were worn, until being replaced
by the black ones.

Shown here the page from the dress-regulation from early 1935;
as well as the publication order from early 1936.





Photo, which I used, in the chapter about NSKK in volume 4 for the
series "Headgear of Hitlers'Germany":

[Wilhelm Saris]

I do not know if someone noticed the last line of the order about numbers,
but it was done at some evening when all of the unit were together and
so of course an irregular postion of the numbers is possible. One person
was good with it; others were not that handy and clever!