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SA Cuff Title - BeVo & RZM label - "Ordensburgen"

Article about: Hello All, I like the early SA cuff titles. They're an interesting item. However, I know very little about them. Does anyone know the approximate date to which this cuff title applies? What

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    Default SA Cuff Title - BeVo & RZM label - "Ordensburgen"

    Hello All,

    I like the early SA cuff titles. They're an interesting item. However, I know very little about them.

    Does anyone know the approximate date to which this cuff title applies?

    What event does it commemorate?

    What is the rarity factor on the early SA cuff titles?

    Best Regards
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    Default Re: SA Cuff Title - BeVo & RZM label - "Ordensburgen"

    Not really SA. These were worn by members of the Party Leadership schools. Three schools were set up at:

    Ordensburg Vogelsang in North Rhine-Westphalia.
    Ordensburg Sonthofen in Bavaria, Allgäu.
    Ordensburg Krössinsee.

    These schools were designed to provide trained political leaders for the NSDAP. Candidates came from the Party itself, or the SA, SS, HJ etc. They were aged in their twenties when they joined.

    Cheers, Ade.

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    The Ordensburg actually had four schools. The fourth was Marienburg. Each school taught the junkers or students different aspects about becoming a future political leader. The junkers wore a cufftitle with the school name. The Ordensburg cufftitle was worn by school staff and instructors.
    BOB

    LIFE'S LOSERS NEVER LEARN FROM THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS.

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    Default Re: SA Cuff Title - BeVo & RZM label - "Ordensburgen"

    I see these in black, some have told me the black background did not exist. Is this true?

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    Quote by FrankBooth View Post
    I see these in black, some have told me the black background did not exist. Is this true?
    No, it is not true. I have a higher ranking leader's tunic with the black cufftitle hand embroidered. Usually, they are found in flat embroidered on black. It is my understanding that the black cufftitles were used for only a short period prior to 1939. I have also heard that they have some relationship to the owner being a DAF member. Unfortunately, very little has come to light regarding the various shoulder straps worn by the Ordensburg cadre.
    BOB

    LIFE'S LOSERS NEVER LEARN FROM THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS.

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    Thank you for the reply and the information Bob.

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    Here is a list of all teh SA armbands and to what gruppe they belonged teh names of teh armbands are usually for martyrs or famous men within teh SA.

    Ärmelbänder der SA

    Albert Leo Schlageter Lörrach Oberrhein
    August Brunotte Feldback Gebirgsstandarte 26 Südmark
    Carl Röver Standarte 144 Nordsee
    Curt Kreth Köslin Standarte 61 Pommern
    Daniel Sauer Hassfurt Standarte 11 Franken
    Dietrich Eckart Chiemgau Jägerstandarte 3 Hochland
    Dincklage Hannover Standarte 73 Niedersachsen
    Düren Niederrhein
    Emil Müller Landau Standarte 18 Kurpfalz
    Emsland Pionierstandarte 10 Nordsee
    Ernst Zdarsky Standarte 110 Sudetenland
    Fritz Ebner Leoben Gebirgsstandarte 3 Südmark
    Friedl Sekanek Graz Gebirgsjägerstandarte 27 Südmark
    Fritz Obermüller Amberg Standarte 6 Alpenland
    Fritz Todt München Schützenstandarte 1 Hochland
    General Litzmann Neuruppin Standarte 24 Berlin-Brandenburg
    Gerhard Wagner Isartal Standarte 1 Hochland
    Hallermann Dortmund Standarte 98 Westfalen
    Hans Eberhard Berlin-Brandenburg
    Hans E. Maikowski Berlin Standarte 1 Berlin-Brandenburg
    Hans Kerrl Peine Standarte 208 Niedersachsen
    Hans Knirsch Dur Standarte 26 Sudetenland
    Hans v. Manteuffel Posen Standarte Posen Wartheland
    Heinrich Förg Ulm Standarte 120 Südwest
    Heinrich Hartl Johannisburg Standarte 146 Sudetenland
    Helmut Seifert Dresden Schützenstandarte 108 Sachsen
    Hermann Kriebel Jägerstandarte 2 Hochland
    Hermann Pantförder Ahlen Standarte 22 Westfalen
    Horst Wessel Berlin Standarte 5 Berlin-Brandenburg
    Johann Gossel Nordsee
    Josef Honomichl Innsbruck Gebirgsjägerstandarte 1 Südmark
    Karl Freyburger Deutsch-Eylau Standarte 59 Ostland
    Karl Roos Hattingen Standarte 99 Westfalen
    Kütemeyer Berlin Standarte 2 Berlin-Brandenburg
    Leibstandarte München Leibstandarte Hochland
    Ludwig Knickmann Gelsenkirchen Standarte 137 Westfalen
    Ludwig Siebert Allgäu Standarte 20 Hochland
    Michael Schmeidt Wolnzach Standarte 2 Hochland
    Otto Reinke Tannenberg
    Otto Roth Neustadt/Aisch Standarte 8 Franken
    Peter Donnhäuser Schwiebus Standarte 6 Sudetenland
    Rudolf Erlbacher Schladming Gebirgsstandarte 9 Südmark
    Schlageter Düsseldorf Standarte 39 Niederrhein
    Strassburg-Land Oberrhein
    Sturmbann z.b.V / ?? Sturmbann z.b.V/Gruppe
    Udo Gurth Berlin-Brandenburg
    Viktor Lutze Ruhr Standarte 99 Westfalen
    von Tschammer und Osten Bautzen Standarte 103 Sachsen
    Wilhelm Boltz Hamburg Marinestandarte 1 Hansa
    Wilhelm Gustloff Schwerin Standarte 89 Hansa
    Willibald Stromberger St.Beit a.d.Glan Gebirgsstandarte 1 Südmark
    Stosstrupp Adolf Hitler 1923
    SA - Regiment München
    Ehrensturm
    Ehrenführer
    Oberste S.A.-Führung
    Stabschef
    Stabswache Göring
    Stabswache Röhm
    Stabswache (Gruppen & Obergruppen)
    Feldherrnhalle
    (Der) Standortführer
    Grenzwache (Verstärkter Grenzaufsichtsdienst / VGAD)

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    Here is a list of all the SA armbands and to what Gruppe they belonged the names of the armbands are usually for martyrs or famous men within the SA.

    Ärmelbänder der SA

    Karl Roos Hattingen Standarte 99 Westfalen

    =======================================
    Don't know for the other bands but this one is for an Alsatian (Alsace France) Standarte located in Zabern (Saverne) Standarte 99, SA Gruppe Oberrhein, "Karl Roos" was an Alsatian Autonomist...

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    Quote by Pascal BERNHARD View Post
    Here is a list of all the SA armbands and to what Gruppe they belonged the names of the armbands are usually for martyrs or famous men within the SA.

    Ärmelbänder der SA

    Karl Roos Hattingen Standarte 99 Westfalen

    =======================================
    Don't know for the other bands but this one is for an Alsatian (Alsace France) Standarte located in Zabern (Saverne) Standarte 99, SA Gruppe Oberrhein, "Karl Roos" was an Alsatian Autonomist...

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