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Re: SA Cuff Title - BeVo & RZM label - "Ordensburgen"
Not really SA. These were worn by members of the Party Leadership schools. Three schools were set up at:
Ordensburg Vogelsang in North Rhine-Westphalia.
Ordensburg Sonthofen in Bavaria, Allgäu.
Ordensburg Krössinsee.
These schools were designed to provide trained political leaders for the NSDAP. Candidates came from the Party itself, or the SA, SS, HJ etc. They were aged in their twenties when they joined.
Cheers, Ade.
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Re: SA Cuff Title - BeVo & RZM label - "Ordensburgen"
The Ordensburg actually had four schools. The fourth was Marienburg. Each school taught the junkers or students different aspects about becoming a future political leader. The junkers wore a cufftitle with the school name. The Ordensburg cufftitle was worn by school staff and instructors.
BOB
LIFE'S LOSERS NEVER LEARN FROM THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS.
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Re: SA Cuff Title - BeVo & RZM label - "Ordensburgen"
I see these in black, some have told me the black background did not exist. Is this true?
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Re: SA Cuff Title - BeVo & RZM label - "Ordensburgen"
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FrankBooth
I see these in black, some have told me the black background did not exist. Is this true?
No, it is not true. I have a higher ranking leader's tunic with the black cufftitle hand embroidered. Usually, they are found in flat embroidered on black. It is my understanding that the black cufftitles were used for only a short period prior to 1939. I have also heard that they have some relationship to the owner being a DAF member. Unfortunately, very little has come to light regarding the various shoulder straps worn by the Ordensburg cadre.
BOB
LIFE'S LOSERS NEVER LEARN FROM THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS.
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Re: SA Cuff Title - BeVo & RZM label - "Ordensburgen"
Thank you for the reply and the information Bob.
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Re: SA Cuff Title - BeVo & RZM label - "Ordensburgen"
Here is a list of all teh SA armbands and to what gruppe they belonged teh names of teh armbands are usually for martyrs or famous men within teh SA.
Ärmelbänder der SA
Albert Leo Schlageter Lörrach Oberrhein
August Brunotte Feldback Gebirgsstandarte 26 Südmark
Carl Röver Standarte 144 Nordsee
Curt Kreth Köslin Standarte 61 Pommern
Daniel Sauer Hassfurt Standarte 11 Franken
Dietrich Eckart Chiemgau Jägerstandarte 3 Hochland
Dincklage Hannover Standarte 73 Niedersachsen
Düren Niederrhein
Emil Müller Landau Standarte 18 Kurpfalz
Emsland Pionierstandarte 10 Nordsee
Ernst Zdarsky Standarte 110 Sudetenland
Fritz Ebner Leoben Gebirgsstandarte 3 Südmark
Friedl Sekanek Graz Gebirgsjägerstandarte 27 Südmark
Fritz Obermüller Amberg Standarte 6 Alpenland
Fritz Todt München Schützenstandarte 1 Hochland
General Litzmann Neuruppin Standarte 24 Berlin-Brandenburg
Gerhard Wagner Isartal Standarte 1 Hochland
Hallermann Dortmund Standarte 98 Westfalen
Hans Eberhard Berlin-Brandenburg
Hans E. Maikowski Berlin Standarte 1 Berlin-Brandenburg
Hans Kerrl Peine Standarte 208 Niedersachsen
Hans Knirsch Dur Standarte 26 Sudetenland
Hans v. Manteuffel Posen Standarte Posen Wartheland
Heinrich Förg Ulm Standarte 120 Südwest
Heinrich Hartl Johannisburg Standarte 146 Sudetenland
Helmut Seifert Dresden Schützenstandarte 108 Sachsen
Hermann Kriebel Jägerstandarte 2 Hochland
Hermann Pantförder Ahlen Standarte 22 Westfalen
Horst Wessel Berlin Standarte 5 Berlin-Brandenburg
Johann Gossel Nordsee
Josef Honomichl Innsbruck Gebirgsjägerstandarte 1 Südmark
Karl Freyburger Deutsch-Eylau Standarte 59 Ostland
Karl Roos Hattingen Standarte 99 Westfalen
Kütemeyer Berlin Standarte 2 Berlin-Brandenburg
Leibstandarte München Leibstandarte Hochland
Ludwig Knickmann Gelsenkirchen Standarte 137 Westfalen
Ludwig Siebert Allgäu Standarte 20 Hochland
Michael Schmeidt Wolnzach Standarte 2 Hochland
Otto Reinke Tannenberg
Otto Roth Neustadt/Aisch Standarte 8 Franken
Peter Donnhäuser Schwiebus Standarte 6 Sudetenland
Rudolf Erlbacher Schladming Gebirgsstandarte 9 Südmark
Schlageter Düsseldorf Standarte 39 Niederrhein
Strassburg-Land Oberrhein
Sturmbann z.b.V / ?? Sturmbann z.b.V/Gruppe
Udo Gurth Berlin-Brandenburg
Viktor Lutze Ruhr Standarte 99 Westfalen
von Tschammer und Osten Bautzen Standarte 103 Sachsen
Wilhelm Boltz Hamburg Marinestandarte 1 Hansa
Wilhelm Gustloff Schwerin Standarte 89 Hansa
Willibald Stromberger St.Beit a.d.Glan Gebirgsstandarte 1 Südmark
Stosstrupp Adolf Hitler 1923
SA - Regiment München
Ehrensturm
Ehrenführer
Oberste S.A.-Führung
Stabschef
Stabswache Göring
Stabswache Röhm
Stabswache (Gruppen & Obergruppen)
Feldherrnhalle
(Der) Standortführer
Grenzwache (Verstärkter Grenzaufsichtsdienst / VGAD)
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Re: SA Cuff Title - BeVo & RZM label - "Ordensburgen"
Here is a list of all the SA armbands and to what Gruppe they belonged the names of the armbands are usually for martyrs or famous men within the SA.
Ärmelbänder der SA
Karl Roos Hattingen Standarte 99 Westfalen
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Don't know for the other bands but this one is for an Alsatian (Alsace France) Standarte located in Zabern (Saverne) Standarte 99, SA Gruppe Oberrhein, "Karl Roos" was an Alsatian Autonomist...
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Re: SA Cuff Title - BeVo & RZM label - "Ordensburgen"
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