SA qualified medical orderly armband.

[johanis1860]

Hello.
Real or fantasy?
I have search in the web,but I don't found any info.
Badge looks silk woven original,but the armband constraction is untypish for an German manufacturing.
Thanks,every info is welcome.
Jannis.

[lebus12]

Hello, perhaps HJ ?

[Ullergaard]

Hello Janis

no i dont think it is HJ, but it tries to be a sa Medical assistant armband as you wrote..
they normally looked like this one..
not saying yours is a bad one just never saw one like it before.. could be a variation of the armband i show?
Maybe others will know.

[Ullergaard]

The HJ ones looked like these..
A HJ doctor armband
and a HJ medic armband.

[Wilhelm Saris]

The patches shown in post 1 and 3 do NOT belong upon an armband, but were sewn
directly upon the arm of the tunic. Normally! But as so often the one or the other
"clown" will have changed the regulations himself.

Globally:
The patch from post 1 was introduced with the entry from June 15, 1937 (Verordnungsblatt
der OSA, number 155, 1937. P. 53). Nothing is said in the order it was worn upon an
armband, but it was said (auf dem linken Unterarm aufgenäht).



The RAD-version also was to be worn upon the arm and not upon an armband. It was
introduced October 8, 1937 (Verordnungsblatt 1937, Nr. 822 - GA 5207a-391/37 ).

The white armband with Lebensrune was for the SA introduced. It was announced in the
Verordnungsblatt der OSAF from January 30, 1938. The white armbands for the HJ were
actually mentioned to be worn since January 18, 1939 with special occasions.

[Ullergaard]

The patches shown in post 1 and 3 do NOT belong upon an armband, but were sewn
directly upon the arm of the tunic.

Hello Wilhelm

funny that germandaggers.com Armband Identification Guide then list them as armbands?
but perhaps they have it wrong...!!

[Ullergaard]

The patches shown in post 1 and 3 do NOT belong upon an armband, but were sewn
directly upon the arm of the tunic. Normally!

The patch from post 1 was introduced with the entry from June 15, 1937 (Verordnungsblatt
der OSA, number 155, 1937. P. 53). Nothin is sdaid in the order it was worn upon an
armband, but it was said (auf dem linken Unterarm aufgenäht).
The RAD-version also was to be worn upon the arm and not upon an armband.

The white armband with Lebensrune was for the SA introduced. It was announced in the
Verordnungsblatt der OSAF from January 30, 1938.

Did the HJ ones also not exist as armbands, but sewn directly to the tunic aswell?

[Ullergaard]

And thank you for clearing that up
Excellent as always wisdom and research beats the internet everyday...
Thank you for always being a library of knowledge
A true rarity these days!

[Wilhelm Saris]

Hello Wilhelm

funny that germandaggers.com Armband Identification Guide then list them as armbands?
but perhaps they have it wrong...!!

I quote from the regulations, not from "what is heard"!

[Wilhelm Saris]

Did the HJ ones also not exist as armbands, but sewn directly to the tunic aswell?

yes, they did exist, but there was a difference mentioned in "when to be worn what",
especially related to the armbands for the HJ!

I must have a photo where the white armband is being worn by girls during a meeting,
but I do not have the time to look. I will be gone for a few weeks after the weekend
while I am taking care from my girlfriend (volunteerd aid) who will have some operations.
Someone must keep an eye, isn't?



So now and then I will have a look at the forum.