SA/SS Gorget "83"

[Pascal BERNHARD]

Nevertheless...

[Erich S]

Very impressive! Here is my RZM 21 SA gorget. These gorgets with the 21 MM are pretty hard to find.

[Wilhelm Saris]

Nice Paul Meybauer from Berlin-Waidmannslust SA-gorget.
It is great to see the disc with manufacturer's number.

[Erich S]

Thank you Wilhelm, do you know the time frame that my gorget was made?

[Wilhelm Saris]

As far as I could find out, this must have been since 1936 anyway (not before),
possibly even since 1937.
It is very remakable that gorgets not ever were described in the RZM regulations
and manufacturer's instructions. What also interesting is to mention is, that in
price-lists for the SS nr. 820 from 1938 it was described as Brustschild für den
Standartenträger, which is the DE and not as Brustschild für Fahnenträger
(Kornett), as was done for the SA.
This could mean there is a difference for the heart-shaped gorget (silver in contrary
to a golden colored starburst). I am pretty sure it otherwise would have been described
as SA/SS Fahnenträger-Brustschild. A silver version was observed and the one or the
other was shown in my book. Maybe this silver version came into being when in 1938
the kidney shaped gorget was introduced. This is still a mistery.

[Erich S]

Thank you for the information it's much appreciated. I think to date, I have only seen a few marked 21 like my example.

[Wilhelm Saris]

Yes that's true. The most with a disc, I have seen, did not have a number
within the disc at all. With these one can only speculate who made them
or they can have number 87 upon the tang (Karoline Gahr from Munich)
and the RZM disc beneath the tang.