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SA/SS Gorget "83"

Article about: Hello, need info about the gorget below please RZM 83 maked Some body could he perhaps tell the maker and making year ? I see nothing wrong with this item, but this markings are not seen oft

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    Default SA/SS Gorget "83"

    Hello,

    need info about the gorget below please

    RZM 83 marked

    Some body could he perhaps tell the maker and making year ?

    I see nothing wrong with this item , but this markings are not seen often...

    Thank you

    Pascal.
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    Willy Annetsberger from Munich for the SA. This concern did clamp the cloth to the back.
    After 1936 the RZM disc was glued on to the reverse, as far as known!
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Thank you Wim !

    so the black "back cloth" could be replaced...

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    If the cloth is clamped in, one is hardly able to replace the cloth without damaging the edge.
    If the cloth is simply glued on, then it is no problem.
    All SA gorgets of the later types with glued on disc, I have seen, did have black cloth. Very
    early gorgets for the SA occasionally did have brown cloth.
    With most observed SA gorgets, seen during the research for my book, had no cloth at all.
    Maybe this was removed (after the war). The cloth was there for not damaging the uniform.
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Thank you very much for the additional information Wim !

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    very nice condition.

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    Could it match with this ?

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    Quote by harryamb2 View Post
    very nice condition.
    Thanks Harry !

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    Quote by Pascal BERNHARD View Post
    Could it match with this ?

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    I don't think so!
    "Wir sollen auch unser Leben für die Brüder lassen" (1.Joh.3.16):
    zum Gedächtnis Wilhelm Schenk. Er starb fürs Vaterland am 13. Juni 1916

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    Quote by Wilhelm Saris View Post
    I don't think so!
    better with SS Gorget M38 :
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