swastika ring question

**Lizzo54** · 03-06-2013, 02:57 AM

Hello friends,

I am fairly new to this forum(very impressive place) and a fairly new to this field. I cam across these two rings and a Soldbuch with some misc papers. Hopefully these pictures will upload and post. i was wondering if anyone new anything about these rings. they both appear to be silver, the only markings I see are inside the swastika ring and it looks like either a 800 or 600 stamped in(very small and hard to see). The second ring has a glass or crystal looking stone in it. they came with the Soldbuch and seem to be about the same size. The soldier in the book is about my size in height wt etc and the rings seem to fit me rather nicely.
I've tried unseuccesfully to find anything on the web like these rings. Most searches reveal ss rings that are fake or repo's, very frustrating.
anyway, id love to pick your brains about these items and others that I have in my collection.

oh and as far as the soilder, is there a way to find if, when and where he died? I don't speak or read German and have been trying to understand this paper work i ahve on the soilder, there was a bunch of papers stored in the back of the Soldbuch. I've been using some ipad apps but its not easy when its hard to make out the script.

Thanks,

Lenny

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 03-06-2013 02:57 AM

We also buy and trade your items and full collections!

**ww2relichunter** · 03-06-2013, 03:16 AM

looks good to me i like the swastika ring i think it is original and nice paper work

**BOB COLEMAN** · 03-06-2013, 03:22 AM

Lenny-
Welcome to the Forum. The paperwork is an urkunde or award document for the wound badge in black. It was common for soldiers to carry their urkunde in their soldbuch. There will be an entry listing his medals and decorations and date of awards. Their will also be a list of battles in which he was engaged and equipment he was issued. I cannot offer an opinion on the ring as the photos are not detailed enough.

**Wagriff** · 03-06-2013, 05:59 AM

Actually, the Swastika ring looks fairly good. It has the period style construction-as does the nice looking agate ring and has been resized at one time or another. I think that both rings have a pretty decent chance of being period rings.

**Paul D** · 03-06-2013, 09:41 AM

He isn't listed in the Volksbund as KIA , i suggest you post the paperwork in the paperwork section and we can discuss them further , staright up photos please !

**Lizzo54** · 03-07-2013, 04:48 AM

Thanks Guys for the extremely fast responses. And its nice to hear some positive comments about the rings being authentic. Any ideas on value? not that i would sell them, i seem to feel that as I get into this hobby more I won't be selling as much as buying.
Other than this amazing forum, are there any other suggested online guides or websites about this stuff? I'm trying to learn as much as i can about the branches of service, ranks etc. and what the different uniforms, medal etc. look like.

I'm posting pictures of the different paperwork that came with this Soldbuch under the paperwork section.

one more thing if I may, this small pin was also in with this stuff. any ideas on what it is and if its German?

thanks again everyone,

Lenny

**relicz** · 03-07-2013, 04:58 AM

Ruptured Duck pin - google it.

Honorable Service Lapel Button - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**BOB COLEMAN** · 03-07-2013, 05:16 AM

A cloth version of the ruptured duck was sewn over the right breast pocket of the uniform of discarged American servicemen. This allowed them to wear the uniform up to 30 days after discharge. Your pin was intended to be worn in the lapel of a suit jacket indicating the wearer was a discharged veteran. The war was still on with Japan and these kept veterans from being attacked for being a shirker during the war. My uncle had a job in manufacturing that did not allow him to be drafted. One night while having a beer in the neighborhood tavern, a drunk sucker punched him from behind telling him he should be in the service.

**Wagriff** · 03-07-2013, 07:35 AM

Valuewise on the rings, I wouldn't go car shopping just yet...but the Swastika ring is still collectable. If it were in perfect condition, it would be selling in the $200 to 300 range, but with the damage to the enamel that it has, realistically it's probably more in the $100-150 category now. The nice agate ring? It's just a decent vintage Silver ring, is all-maybe $60-70 dollars?