Are these Adolf Hitler 1933 Pins Real of Fakes ?

Feelix · 01-19-2010, 03:08 AM

Are they real or fakes :S ? thanks a lot !!

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**Espenlaub Militaria** · 01-19-2010 03:08 AM

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**Adrian Stevenson** · 01-19-2010, 10:41 AM

Hi Feelix, yes these are 100% bad.

Cheers, Ade.

Feelix · 01-19-2010, 06:13 PM

alright! Thanks Adrian !

concerning the ones written "National-Sozialistiche-D.A.P", are they more likely to be reals ?

thanks a lot !

**HJ-Collector** · 01-19-2010, 06:35 PM

theres loads of fakes of both badges AH and NSDAP party pins

**Zeller** · 01-20-2010, 12:15 PM

Ade is of course 100% correct. The wrong RZM and M1 fonts are the first indicators

**Steven M** · 01-20-2010, 03:02 PM

If memory serves me correctly, the RZM wasn't established until 1935. I know it has been clarified that these are fake, but are there legitimate pieces with the date "1933" made after the RZM was established?

**BOB COLEMAN** · 01-20-2010, 09:38 PM

by Steven M

If memory serves me correctly, the RZM wasn't established until 1935. I know it has been clarified that these are fake, but are there legitimate pieces with the date "1933" made after the RZM was established?

The RZM was established prior to the National Socialists movement coming to power in 1933. Following this event, the RZM quickly took over control of all aspects of the manufacturing of items for the political formations of the 3rd Reich. With all due respect, the 1935 date is incorrect and too late.

**Steven M** · 01-20-2010, 09:59 PM

by BOB COLEMAN

The RZM was established prior to the National Socialists movement coming to power in 1933. Following this event, the RZM quickly took over control of all aspects of the manufacturing of items for the political formations of the 3rd Reich. With all due respect, the 1935 date is incorrect and too late.

Hi Bob,

H guess I was confusing the 'RZM' with the 'M' badge numbering which followed. It has been a long time since I have dealt in this stuff, so the memory is rusty.

**schui** · 11-27-2010, 10:01 PM

by Zeller

Ade is of course 100% correct. The wrong RZM and M1 fonts are the first indicators

thats well spotted I checked my hitler youth groep 2 dagger and the rzm, is not like this font on the badge, I have no other rzm badges the badge I have would not be rzm anyway, I hope I can get a confirmation on that 1st post I made, about that badge, well worn, and not rusted but again, looks spot on, did also buy this at a auction in the UK today. I was the only bidder, could of had a groep 1 ss dagger but I did not have 3,290 pounds.

**schui** · 11-27-2010, 10:09 PM

If I bring up some shots of this badge closer up, can someone indicate as I did that this is a real badge. I have seen a load of fakes, the font is always what I look for, but should weight be a concern, The pins seem to be closely the same, possibly new old stock, however, a worn lapel badge is clear if it does not have surface wear it was not worn in Germany Now all african pins and badges faired much better I suspect?