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Opinion on Order of the Red Star: 743

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    Default Opinion on Order of the Red Star: 743

    i Have had this in my collection for years and im not 100% of its authenticity. on the back under the screw it says ro3hak and the serial number on the top is 743. i know that only 800 of the type 1 red stars were made and ive only seen one sell. help is always appreciated.
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    Default re: Opinion on Order of the Red Star: 743

    Never seen that stamp before, but someone like Ade will be able to give you more information.

    I think it is definitely an ORS, the enamel has a patina, but probably a long service or re-issue thats been bastardised. Note the lack of a screw base, indicative of the early issue medals. Serial number should be under the screw, not above.

    To my eyes it looks like it's had the original number filed off? Those 'thumb prints' on either side are an interesting feature. The serial number doesn't really look aged enough to me.

    Compare it with those on these sites:

    The History of the Order of the Red Star, by Michael Riley

    The Soviet Military Awards Page. Medals, History and Russia!

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    Default re: Opinion on Order of the Red Star: 743

    Without better (a lot better) quality images, it is difficult to tell.

    If it is genuine, what you have is a very early, and very rare Goznak example.

    That is all I can tell you, but certainly when the resident ODM guys see this, they will further elaborate.
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    Default re: Opinion on Order of the Red Star: 743

    Original Goznak by Mondvor , details are different , I do not take much risk by telling you that unfortunately this is a fake Red star Order
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    Default re: Opinion on Order of the Red Star: 743

    Is it fake or just a bastardized re-issue? Might still have some residual value...

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    Default re: Opinion on Order of the Red Star: 743

    Quote by DioMac View Post
    Is it fake or just a bastardized re-issue? Might still have some residual value...
    100% fake all Goznak models presented in this book are similar to that of Mondvor site .
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    Default re: Opinion on Order of the Red Star: 743

    thats a shame, i like this one too. thank you guys for your help

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    Default re: Opinion on Order of the Red Star: 743

    The guys are correct.

    It would have a small value as a filler or re-enactment item.

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    Default re: Opinion on Order of the Red Star: 743

    Dom, is that '521' yours?!

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    Default re: Opinion on Order of the Red Star: 743

    Quote by Dom View Post
    100% fake all Goznak models presented in this book are similar to that of Mondvor site .
    I wouldn't call it 100% fake, it's just not what it purports to be. It seems to be a late-war, Moscow Mint Red Star, with bastardized reverse.

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