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    Trying to help out a friend. He has 4 shields for review. 2 Kubans, a Krim and a Demjansk. I will post the Krim and Demjansk separately.

    Here is the last of them. A Demjansk.

    Thanks for your time and views? And helping out my friend.
    Thanks in advance!!!

    Michael

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    Hi Michael,

    This is the notorious "Serif J" fake I'm afraid. I just had a quick look at the others you've posted, but I'm guessing your mate took the photo's as they really are too small, unfocussed and far too dark for me to make a comment I'm happy standing by. I'll let someone else have a go at them.......

    Regards, Ned.
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    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

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    Yes. Not my photos. (you know me and my photos. Like them detailed and High Res )

    But as always, you are a gentleman and a scholar and appreciate you time!

    I will try to get better ones of the Kubans and Krims.

    Michael
    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Hi Michael, Ned is spot on as ever, the "J" is the big giveaway with this fake, the backing cloth does not look right either. Leon.
    "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemingway

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    Most commonly, "Serif Js" are in Zinc. This looks like one of the steel variants. The other giveaway is the heavily over-emphasized feathers on the eagle's chest. Normally quite subtle but on this fake, looks all chuffed up, - most be the cold on the Eastern Front.

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    Quote by Redcap View Post
    Most commonly, "Serif Js" are in Zinc. This looks like one of the steel variants. The other giveaway is the heavily over-emphasized feathers on the eagle's chest. Normally quite subtle but on this fake, looks all chuffed up, - most be the cold on the Eastern Front.
    I wouldn't be so sure of that being a fake steel variant. There's nothing to suggest it's steel, like rust for instance. There is however clear signs of white rust/ oxidized zinc, which is an indicator of it being made using zinc sheet on the backplate. As far as ANY Demjansk being found made from zinc sheet, I would avoid it like the plague as I'm pretty certain no originals in that material have been verified (unless things have changed recently).

    Regards, Ned.
    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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    "Armschilde der Deutschen Wehrmacht" shows an example of this exact type of fake. Actually it may not be steel but possibly silvered brass, but not the common Zinc type. The eagles chest is totally different, though all the other details, serif "J", curved propeller etc follow the well known Zinc fake.

    There are definitely accepted genuine examples in Zinc now, though any with the serif "J" are duff.

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