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    what are thoughts on this ?is it right

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    Default re: Deutsche Kreuz in Gold cloth version

    Why not try searching for other examples instead of just asking?
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    Default re: Deutsche Kreuz in Gold cloth version

    I think asking gives members a chance to share expertese with those of us who are not as informed

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    Isn’t an embroidered version of DKiG ?? Would not be an official issue

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    It is a Deutsches kreus im geld and is probably a good original when compared with the example I used to own, though they mostly have a dies flaw on the date which should be at the bottom of the award, though I can't see if it has that. There are plenty of members here with the knowledge on these as mine was many years back.
    Regards,

    Jerry

    Whatever its just an opinion.

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    I think it has a good chance, just compared it to some others, never seen one of these before

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    Default Re: Deutsche Kreuz in Gold cloth version

    The example illustrated is original.

    I have edited the thread title: please don't forget to make these as descriptive as possible. A title like "cloth badge" is just hopeless when it comes to anyone searching info in the future.

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    Looks like it's been glued onto a cigarette case.....oh dear. Pretty much negates any real value or desirability to me. It'll probably end up destroyed if you try to take it off, but I would imagine this is reflected in the price?
    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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    Quote by Jerry B View Post
    Why not try searching for other examples instead of just asking?
    you've never posted an item for review by a public forum?

    Kevin, the cross is 100% textbook and correct.

    The specific die flaw to look for on these can be found in the "9" of the date "1941"

    Here's one I scanned so you can see the flat top of the "9" in the date.

    Do know that there are originals that do not have this die flaw so pronounced (it progressed as production kept going) but these are seldom encountered and spotting this die flaw is a general guideline.

    William Kramer
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    Us and them - and after all we’re only ordinary men. Me, and you - God only knows it’s not what we would choose to do. Forward he cried from the rear, and the front rank died, and the general sat and the lines on the map moved from side to side.

    - US & THEM, THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON - PINK FLOYD

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    Quote by all1knew View Post
    you've never posted an item for review by a public forum?

    Kevin, the cross is 100% textbook and correct.

    The specific die flaw to look for on these can be found in the "9" of the date "1941"

    Here's one I scanned so you can see the flat top of the "9" in the date.

    Do know that there are originals that do not have this die flaw so pronounced (it progressed as production kept going) but these are seldom encountered and spotting this die flaw is a general guideline.

    William Kramer
    The wreath shown by William above is the Juncker variant, which was used on nearly all cloth type crosses. The wreath was used on both metal and cloth crosses. Below is an example showing the progression of the flaw that he describes above, for the purpose of demonstration. The die is known as being a 'late type copy' in collecting circles. All three are from metal based crosses, but they are the same type as above, and show perfectly what he describes.

    Regards, Ned.
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    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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