Deutsche Kreuz in Gold cloth version

[kevin1947]

what are thoughts on this ?is it right

[Jerry B]

Why not try searching for other examples instead of just asking?

[kevin1947]

I think asking gives members a chance to share expertese with those of us who are not as informed

[Totenhead]

Isn’t an embroidered version of DKiG ?? Would not be an official issue

[Jerry B]

It is a Deutsches kreus im geld and is probably a good original when compared with the example I used to own, though they mostly have a dies flaw on the date which should be at the bottom of the award, though I can't see if it has that. There are plenty of members here with the knowledge on these as mine was many years back.

[Totenhead]

I think it has a good chance, just compared it to some others, never seen one of these before

[Adrian Stevenson]

The example illustrated is original.

I have edited the thread title: please don't forget to make these as descriptive as possible. A title like "cloth badge" is just hopeless when it comes to anyone searching info in the future.

Cheers, Ade.

[big ned]

Looks like it's been glued onto a cigarette case.....oh dear. Pretty much negates any real value or desirability to me. It'll probably end up destroyed if you try to take it off, but I would imagine this is reflected in the price?

[all1knew]

Why not try searching for other examples instead of just asking?

you've never posted an item for review by a public forum?

Kevin, the cross is 100% textbook and correct.

The specific die flaw to look for on these can be found in the "9" of the date "1941"

Here's one I scanned so you can see the flat top of the "9" in the date.

Do know that there are originals that do not have this die flaw so pronounced (it progressed as production kept going) but these are seldom encountered and spotting this die flaw is a general guideline.

William Kramer

[big ned]

you've never posted an item for review by a public forum?

Kevin, the cross is 100% textbook and correct.

The specific die flaw to look for on these can be found in the "9" of the date "1941"

Here's one I scanned so you can see the flat top of the "9" in the date.

Do know that there are originals that do not have this die flaw so pronounced (it progressed as production kept going) but these are seldom encountered and spotting this die flaw is a general guideline.

William Kramer

The wreath shown by William above is the Juncker variant, which was used on nearly all cloth type crosses. The wreath was used on both metal and cloth crosses. Below is an example showing the progression of the flaw that he describes above, for the purpose of demonstration. The die is known as being a 'late type copy' in collecting circles. All three are from metal based crosses, but they are the same type as above, and show perfectly what he describes.

Regards, Ned.