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Deutsches Kreuz in gold authentic? Help needed please.

Article about: Hello, I am new here. I have tried verifying the authenticity of this German Cross in Gold for about 2-3 years now and I haven't had too much luck yet. I was hoping someone here could verify

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    Default Deutsches Kreuz in gold authentic? Help needed please.

    Hello, I am new here. I have tried verifying the authenticity of this German Cross in Gold for about 2-3 years now and I haven't had too much luck yet. I was hoping someone here could verify that it is real or inform me if it is not. From what I have read, the mounting rivits on the back come in sets of 4,5,6,7,8,10. Mine only seems to have 3. I do know for a fact that the original clasp has been replaced, and if you open the clasp you can tell that the wear marks are at a different angle than the clasp that is on it, which led me to believe it is a replacement clasp.


    This medal really does weigh quite a lot. Definately surprised me when I first picked it up.


    Also, out of curiosity, I have seen repros going for $200 that are crappy and fake looking and I haven't seen any originals for sale yet. Is this medal considered rare and I found a really valuable medal? I paid $95 for this at an antique store. Reguardless of value, this is really cool looking

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    welcome ! hobbymaster001 i am not specialist but my opinion its a copy , the pin its not good , the rivet not good ,fantasy piece

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    The cross look to me a bit assimetrical, but well done, I'am a not a specialist in that area, but looks like authentic piece.
    Regards,
    Dimas

    my Skype: warrelics

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    It yell fake rivits alone tell you that,but right off the bat the frount is dull and life less

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    Hi there,it's a fake IMO. The catch is wrong. Stewy

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    Quote by stewy View Post
    Hi there,it's a fake IMO. The catch is wrong. Stewy
    I knew that the catch is wrong, it has been replaced. I was wondering if it was authentic other than the catch. The person I got it from said that when he was a kid he liked to play with his fathers medal collection and broke the catch off. I can see if the catch is lifted up where the original was and the patina seems to be in a flat looking wide shape. Which from what I have seen could be original. It was the rivets of which really concerned me though.

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    welcome to the forum
    disregarding the catch, because as you said its a replacement, but the cross itself is not good IMHO. It is very difficult to judge a piece with photographs alone, and they seemed to have flashed out a bit, but from what i can see, it would not be one for my collection. There are a number of differences that i can see from known originals....sorry, just my opinion
    Cheers
    John


    When you're wounded and left of Afghanistan's plains,
    An' the women come out to cut up what remains,
    Jest roll to your rifle an' blow out your brains,
    An' go to your Gawd like a soldier." - Rudyard Kipling

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    Hi there,the hinge & pin are wrong. I can only see three rivets,there should be at least four. Depending on maker & the rivets that are there are bad. Can you tell if the badge itself is three piece construction? Also do you have any weights/measurements? Hope this helps,Stewy.

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    Hi, there are two pictures that may help, second is the later type...
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    Ok, here is a well made fake to look at, but a fake non the less, worthless in my opinion. There is only one thing that stands out straight away, and that is a junkers should have 5 rivets, and not 4. There are other faults with it, but it would fool most. It originated from the Czech Republic it's a minefield out there.


    Also i have attached a jeweller's copy of a DRK with diamonds. Everything about this one is correct, apart from it being made in 1970!......... cost when bought? 800. When you consider only a few where ever issued, that's when owning a copy can be rewarding (its not mine anymore)
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    Cheers
    John


    When you're wounded and left of Afghanistan's plains,
    An' the women come out to cut up what remains,
    Jest roll to your rifle an' blow out your brains,
    An' go to your Gawd like a soldier." - Rudyard Kipling

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