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Article about: Hi everyone , I am looking to get this one from Bill's site, it looks a good original badge to me(if not perfect!) It is a marked Assman(although the hinge has frozen). As ever I would like

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    Hi everyone , I am looking to get this one from Bill's site, it looks a good original badge to me(if not perfect!) It is a marked Assman(although the hinge has frozen). As ever I would like to hear your opinions, thanks in advance, Leon.
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    Hi Leon,

    Save your money it's a cast fake.

    Take a close look at the catch on the reverse, it's too low to be an original Assmann Flak. This fake has been cast from an original badge that has had the catch repaired, note that there is no difference from the badge material and the solder affixing the catch, they are the same. Also the pin is an incorrect type for this badge, and the fact that the hinge is 'frozen' is another reason to take a closer look, it too is partially cast into the badge, and that's wrong.

    Moving onto the obverse, note the dings on the cannon barrel i've highlighted on both photo's of Bill's badge and another identical cast fake. Also the damage to the eagles feet and the wear on the gun's elevation wheel are the same on both, besides other small details that i've not bothered to highlight.

    Better pic's here from the vendor's website:

    M-268a* Luftwaffe Anti-Aircraft War Badge

    Here are the comparisons between Bill's badge and the cast fake, obverse and reverse.

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    And here's a couple of reverse photo's of genuine badges showing the correct position of the catch and type of pin that should be found on Assmann Luftwaffe Flakabzeichen's.

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    Well thank you very much Ned , that is a very well observed and detailed synopsis which I greatly appreciate. I must admit that I thought the eagles feet were a little suspicious but I would never have spotted the other "give away" traits! The only other thing I thought may have been wrong with this was that the Assman mark was very difficult to see , which is easily explained by your explanation of this being a cast! Thank you once more Ned for your time (and money saving opinion) , I am surprised that Bill has let this one "slip" onto his site. Cheers , Leon.
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    nicely put Ned.

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    nicely put Ned.
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