Flotten-Kriegsabzeichen real or fake?

[pansoti]

Opinion on this unmarked badge ? good or repro ?
many thanks

[Stewy S]

Hi mate K/marine stuff's not my thing really,but the detail's very soft. Also there appears to be an unusual ridge on the reverse. Stewy

[Nick VR]

Hi Pansoti


IMO not original...


Greetz

Nick VR

[NOR_Collector]

As Nick said.
It's not an original.... sorry

/André

[pansoti]

Sorry , IMO the badge could be an unmarked AS

[John Brandon]

Sorry , IMO the badge could be an unmarked AS

not the typical catch seen on an AS for sure, my opinion, for what its worth, there are plenty of "textbook" ones around, This one's not giving a warm fuzzy feeling

[Nick VR]

Hi Pansoti


Is this badge yours or are you planning to buy this one?

As far as I remember there are only three accepted designs of semi hollow Flotten-Kriegsabzeichen. Not only that but the badge that you show totaly lacks the detail and depth that one would expect from an original.

Sorry , IMO the badge could be an unmarked AS

This is the same badge (also a reproduction), but this time with an AS in triangle logo on it:



Greetz

Nick VR

[pansoti]

The HSF badge by AS is ever subject for discussion .
On the whole I don't like to judge a badge according to the pin system . In a few cases it is the only chance (f.e. Ubadge Schickle vs Mayer) .
The pin system is a purchased good so failing the stock, the firm can apply another type .
The badge shown looks like an AS type , I am doubtful so I have proposed it to discuss .
The retaining clip maybe has been replaced or resoldered .But this is not the esssential requirement to set fake the badge .
To improve the evaluation another badge AS type .

PS : I am not interested in buying the badge

[Nick VR]

Hi Pansoti


I did not judge the first badge by looking at the pin and catch alone.

Can you post front and side pictures from the second badge?


Greetz

Nick VR

[Stewy S]

Hi again,as i said before K/M is only fringe stuff for me. The award that started this thread looks like it's started to melt on the obverse. I did not need to look at the hardware. Sorry. Stewy