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[kevin1947]

expert help needed ,any good ??

[Adrian]

I'm sure other will be able to help out a bit more but from these images I don't like it.

I'm struggling to match it to a maker conclusively and I have no idea what's going on in the red circled area below.

Hopefully one of the guys who knows more about these badges can add their thoughts.

[Danmark]

Ooh Kevin, always hard to tell.
The wing feather's edges look good and sharp ( die trimmed rather than cast ) and the wreath as well.
I like the catch and the cropped pin - is the impression in the case matching and what of the case overall?
I'm no "expert" and I've been fooled before but I would fall for this one.
Cheers, Dan

Thanks Adrian - there you go Kevin, that's why I don't collect badges!!!

[Cameron Stockton]

Hi

It also looks like the back near the catch has broken and someone has tried to repair it. A bit of a "Frankenstein" badge in my opinion. It has the detail you would expect from an original badge but has some issues (as Adrian has said) as-well witch you would not see on an original badge.

Thanks

Cameron

[Adrian]

The cut areas on the reverse are a continuation of the cuts on the obverse.

[Anubis]

Thats a very crude fake, not even close to anything original.

[Adrian]

Thank you for confirming János. Out of curiosity, which maker do you think this is trying to be?

[Anubis]

Hello Adrian,

I have seen these with mark Juncker, this one looks marked to but I can't read the mm. Hard to tell which is the closest observe design, maybe OM?

[KMMorris]

Fake, those cuts are so off putting.
Morris

[Adrian]

Hello Adrian,

I have seen these with mark Juncker, this one looks marked to but I can't read the mm. Hard to tell which is the closest observe design, maybe OM?

You're probably right about this one being marked Juncker. Now you've said it I can remember seeing a couple like this before.

OM is a very rare maker, do you know of any fakes specifically based upon that design?