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Article about: Guys Please can you give me a thumbs up or down on this Pilots badge? The detail looks ok but seems soft Many thanks Nick

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    Guys

    Please can you give me a thumbs up or down on this Pilots badge?

    The detail looks ok but seems soft

    Many thanks

    Nick
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    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    Hi Nick,

    I don't like it either. In my opinion it's a cast fake representing the badge that is by an unknown maker, but has also been associated tentatively to FLL (Friedrich Linden, Ludenscheid).

    Here's another bad one.

    Regards, Ned.

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    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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    That's Ned , that's just what I wanted to know , much appreciated

    Nick
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    [QUOTE=big ned;1631040]Hi Nick,

    I don't like it either. In my opinion it's a cast fake representing the badge that is by an unknown maker, but has also been associated tentatively to FLL (Friedrich Linden, Ludenscheid).

    Regards, Ned.

    Hi Nick, I agree completely with Ned and I think your first impression was correct.

    For me it is cast as Ned says but even if I had no idea and somebody told me it was a good one I still think I would pass on it, it's a bit ugly

    Regards

    Mark
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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    Having had this nagging me on and off all day, I may have to revise my opinion as having had a concerted look around on various databases and done several searches on other forums, this poorly defined badge is not unusual when it comes to this pattern. It could be down to die wear judging by some similar conditioned badges.

    The remains of the finish on the reverse of some of these is also remarkably similar to what's on the badge Nick showed, so there is now an element of doubt for me over my initial opinion. Basically, I'm no longer sure and erring the other way....

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    Regards, Ned.
    'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
    We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
    It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
    Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'

    In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.

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    imo it's a good one,but not the quality.

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    Quote by big ned View Post
    Having had this nagging me on and off all day, I may have to revise my opinion as having had a concerted look around on various databases and done several searches on other forums, this poorly defined badge is not unusual when it comes to this pattern. It could be down to die wear judging by some similar conditioned badges.

    The remains of the finish on the reverse of some of these is also remarkably similar to what's on the badge Nick showed, so there is now an element of doubt for me over my initial opinion. Basically, I'm no longer sure and erring the other way....

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    Regards, Ned.
    Good man Ned, I love your honest approach, always have done! Personally looking at this one I am not that keen, mainly due to the very poorly defined cut/edges to the gaps between the Adlers wing tip feathers. That said, it could just be a weak well used die. All in all, I think it is one well worth noting, but due to doubt I would pass. Leon.
    "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemingway

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