Us and them - and after all we’re only ordinary men. Me, and you - God only knows it’s not what we would choose to do. Forward he cried from the rear, and the front rank died, and the general sat and the lines on the map moved from side to side.
- US & THEM, THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON - PINK FLOYD
Interesting, the grind pattern on this thing. Most all that you see with the "dish" on the reverse side have large concentric circles of milling inside the dish. This one has many very small over-lapping circular grinds. There are several other small red flags on this clasp that I won't point out here to assist the fakers perfect their pieces, but if the owner of this questionable clasp is still not convinced by 2 forums worth of knowledgeable opinions on it's authenticity, I would suggest contacting Thomas Durante(a member on both forums) and getting his views on it. Unfortunately, he has stated his view on the other forum that the only clasps by Juncker that he knows of that are maker marked are Bomber clasps, so the owner may still not hear what he wishes to.
"Much that once was, is lost. For none now live who remember it."