Gold SA Sportsabzeichen.

**G43** · 06-24-2013, 01:13 AM

Here I have a second pattern bronze SA sports badge and a third pattern gold SA sports badge. I'm fairly confident the Bronze is a genuine piece but im skeptical of the detail on the reverse of the gold. Opinions?

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 06-24-2013 01:13 AM

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**G43** · 06-24-2013, 01:16 AM

The reverse of the Bronze SA, right side up!

**Pryo** · 06-24-2013, 05:19 AM

Bronze looks fine. So does the gold, but I'm not sure on the gold unfortunately

**Eric Zentner** · 06-24-2013, 06:43 AM

I also am not a fan of the gold one. Makers mark and poor detail is enough for me to leave be.

Eric

**Glenn66** · 06-24-2013, 07:15 AM

Maker is wrong for the gold. I believe Ludwig Christian Lauer are the only makers of the Gold Grade SA. (Which incidentally is how I know that at least 2 of the 3 Gold SAs on the Winkler site are fake)

Here is my example for reference.

Plus the collection, just because I like the photo so much!

**Eric Zentner** · 06-24-2013, 07:30 AM

Hi Glen. This list below was put on here some time ago, is it good and what grades did the companies make then?

Eric

Manufacturer for SA Sportbadge - SA Sportabzeichen:

1. L. CHR. LAUER NÜRNBERG - BERLIN ( only typ 1 )

2. BONNER KUNSTABZ. BEDARF BONN°/ RH ( only typ 1 )

3. E. SCHNEIDER LÜDENSCHEID ( typ 1 and typ 2 with and without number )

4. BERG & NOLTE A.G. LÜDENSCHEID ( typ 1 and typ 2 with and without number )

5. KARL HENSLER PFORZHEIM ( but only Typ 2 without number )

manufacturer for SA Defencebadge - SA Wehrabzeichen:

1. BERG & NOLTE A.G. LÜDENSCHEID ( only typ 1 )

2. FECHLER BERNSBACH/SA ( only typ 1 )

3. KARL HENSLER PFORZHEIM ( only typ 1 with SA Führung München)

4. R.SIEPER & SÖHNE LÜDENSCHEID ( only typ 1 )

5. PETZ u LORENZ J.REICHENBACH ( only typ 1 )

6. W. REDO SAARLAUTERN ( typ 1 and typ 2 marked with RZM M1/100 )

manufacturer for SA Defencebadge for war wounded:

1. W. REDO SAARLAUTERN ( marked with RZM M1/100 )

2. Deschler und Sohn ( marked with M1/52 )

**Glenn66** · 06-24-2013, 09:40 AM

This list is I think from Tino (GraveDigga) who IMO is the 'go-to' guy as regards SA awards. I cannot comment on the accuracy of the list you provide other than to say I would certainly take it as the most most accurate reference we have at the moment.

I also can't comment on 'the who made what' question other than that I know Tino told me personally that any Gold grade other than a L.C. Lauer is a fake, hence my comments above.