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11-18-2016 10:15 PM
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Hi Paul,
You've got a good eye, it is an original Krim Schilde by Friedrich Orth.
Regards, Ned.
'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'
In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.
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Sure has all the characteristics of an Orth, only I can't see any of the 'FO' stamping that should be impressed into the reverse at the lower tip of the shield. It may just be a very light impression, any chance of a better macro shot of that area?
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Glenn66
Sure has all the characteristics of an Orth, only I can't see any of the 'FO' stamping that should be impressed into the reverse at the lower tip of the shield. It may just be a very light impression, any chance of a better macro shot of that area?
Hi Glenn,
It's the early type 'A' badge, (before they switched to side tabs) they weren't stamped as far as I can recall.
Regards, Ned.
'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'
In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.
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Sorry Ned, but Weber has it that all Orth variants (1.09 thru 1.12, 1.12 being with the lateral prongs) should carry the reverse "f.o" stamp. I think I can see something in Pauls photo above but that could just be my dicky eyes and the crack cocaine talking.
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I reckon the marking is there too.
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Glenn66
Sorry Ned, but Weber has it that all Orth variants (1.09 thru 1.12, 1.12 being with the lateral prongs) should carry the reverse "f.o" stamp. I think I can see something in Pauls photo above but that could just be my dicky eyes and the crack cocaine talking.
Hi Glenn,
Weber's book is dated now, and knowledge has moved on since it was first published back in 2009. If you want to use it as your reference then please take a close look at pages 98-101 titled 1.26 UNKNOWN MAKER - DESIGN F. ORTH (his bold) and tell me that's not the identical badge to the one above? There are clear differences from the stamped Orth shields in the earlier part of the book. He contests it was:
Quote: "most likely produced by an unknown manufacturer of the greater Vienna area (Hobacher?). A detailed look reveals deviations compared to the shield by Friedrich Orth." End Quote.
Since the book was published, I believe this shield has been widely accepted as being manufactured by Orth, (perhaps a different die to explain the "deviations"?), but regarding whether the above shield is stamped or not, I agree that on magnification of the obverse side, there does appear to be a very faint mark that resembles the "fo" trademark, but on the reverse it's not visible. Maybe that's why in the book he claims the type 1.26 is unmarked, because the strike is that light it's almost invisible?
An interesting topic when the Weber references are looked at closely anyway.
Regards, Ned.
'I do not think we can hope for any better thing now.
We shall stick it out to the end, but we are getting weaker of course, and the end cannot be far.
It seems a pity, but I do not think I can write more. R. SCOTT.
Last Entry - For God's sake look after our people.'
In memory of Capt. Robert Falcon Scott, Edward Wilson, Henry Bowers, Lawrence Oates and Edgar Evans. South Pole Expedition, 30th March 1912.
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