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    Good evening all!
    I have a very, very modest WWII collection and had a few "newbie" questions.
    First I'd like to thank those who are responsible for this great resource to help out those of us who are far less educated in this area of militaria collecting. THANKS!!!
    Anyway, back to the questions. I have 3 different Nazi awards with maker marks. I was wondering if someone could help me ID who made them?
    First, I have a black wound badge marked "L/11".
    Second, is a silver wound badge marked "92".
    Lastly, is a Iron Cross, 2nd Class marked "67".
    Thanks again and is there a a comprehensive reference on these?
    Brian
    PS I can post pics if it would help, except the Iron Cross b/c it's too small.

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    Full list of LDO makers.

    LDO = Leistungs Gemeinschaft der Deutscher Ordenshersteller

    English: Administration of German Orders Manufacturers

    Prasidialkanzlei Numbers
    1 Deschler & Sohn, Munchen
    2 C.E. Junker, Berlin
    3 Wilheim Deumer, Ludenscheid
    4 Steinhauer & Luck, Ludenscheid
    5 Hermann Wernstein, Jena-Lobstedt
    6 Fritz Zimmermann, Stuttgart
    7 Paul Meyhauer, Berlin
    8 Ferdinand Hoffstadter, Bonn a. Rhein
    9 Liefergsmeinschaft Scmuckhandwerker, Pforzheim
    10 Foerster & Barth, Pforzheim
    11 Grossmann & Co., Wien
    12 Frank & Reif, Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen
    13 Gustav Brehmer, Markneukirchen/Sa
    14 L. Chr. Lauer, Nurnberg-W
    15 Friedrich Orth, Wien
    16 Alols Rettenmaler, Scwablsch-Gmund
    17 Unknown
    18 Karl Wurster K.G., Markneukirchen/Sa
    19 E. Ferd Weidmann, Frankfurt/Main
    20 C.F. Zimmermann, Pforzheim
    21 Gebr. Godet & Co.,Berlin
    22 Boerger & Co. Berlin
    23 Arbeitsgemeinschaft fur Heereshedarf, darf In der Graveur-u. Ziseleurinnung
    24 Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer, Plaket-ten-hersteller
    25 Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-Gold-und, Silberschemiede-Innungen
    26 B. H. Mayer's Kunst-prageanstalt, Pforzheim
    27 Anton Schenkl's Nachf., Wien
    28 Eugen Schmidthaussier, Pforzheim
    29 Hauptmunzamt, Berlin
    30 Hauptmunzamt, Wien
    31 Hans Gnad, Wien
    32 W. Hobachter, Wien
    33 Friedrich Linden, Ludenscheld
    34 Willy Annetsberger, Munchen
    35 F.W. Assmann & Sohn, Ludenscheld
    36 Bury & Leonhard, Hanau a. M
    37 Ad. Baumeister, Ludenscheld
    38 Unknown
    39 Rudolf Berge, Gablonz a.d.N
    40 Berg & Nolte, Ludenscheld
    41 Geb. Bender, Oberstein/Nahe
    42 Biedermann & Co., Oberkassel b/Bonn
    43 Julius Bauer Sohne, Zella Mehlisi/Thur
    44 Jakob Bengel, Idar/Oberdonau
    45 Franz Jungwirth, Wien
    46 Hans Doppler, Wels/Oberdonau
    47 Erhard & Sohne A.G., Schwabisch Gmund
    48 Richard Feix, Gablonz a.d.N.
    49 Josef Feix Sohne, Gablonz a.d.N.
    50 Karl Gschiermeister, Wien
    51 Eduard Goriach & Sohne, Gablonz/N
    52 Gottlieb & Wagner, Ldar/Oberstein
    53 Glaser & Sohne, Dresden
    54 Unknown
    55 J.E. Hammer & Sohne, Geringswalde
    56 Robert Hauschild, Pforzheim
    57 Karl Hensler, Pforzheim
    58 Artur Jakel & Co., Gablonz/N
    59 Louis Keller, Oberstein
    60 Katz & Deyhle, Pforzheim
    61 Rudolf A. Karneth & Sohne, Gablonz a.N.
    62 Kerbach & Oesterhelt, Dresden
    63 Franz Klast & Sohne, Gablonz a.N.
    64 Gottl. Fr. Keck & Sohn, Pforzheim
    65 Klein & Quenzer A.G., Idar/Oberstein
    66 Freidrich Keller, Oberstein
    67 H. Krelsel, Gablonz a.N.
    68 Alfred Knobloch, Gablonz a.N.
    69 Alols Klammer, Innsbruck
    70 Lind & Meyrer, Oberstein a.d.N.
    71 Rudolf Leukert, Oberstein a.d.N.
    72 Franz Lipp, Pforzheim
    73 Frank Manert, Gablonz a.N.
    74 Carl Maurer Sohn, Oberstein/Nahe
    75 Unknown
    76 Ernst L. Muller, Pforzheim
    77 Bayer. Hauptmunzamt, Munchen
    78 Gustav Miksch, Gablonz/N.
    79 Unknown
    80 G.H. Osang, Dresden
    81 Overhoff & Cle, Ludenscheid
    82 Augustin Prager, Gablonz a.N.
    83 Emll Peukert, Gablonz a.N.
    84 Carl Poellath, Schrobenhausen
    85 Julius Pletsch, Gablonz/N.
    86 Paulmann & Crone, Ludenscheid
    87 Roman Palme, Gablonz a.N.
    88 Werner Redo, Saarlautern
    89 Rudolf Richter, Schlag 244 b. Gablonz
    90 Aug. F. Richter K.G., Hamburg
    91 Josef Rossler & Co., Gablonz a.d.N.
    92 Josef Rucker & Sohn, Gablonz a.d.N.
    93 Richard Simm & Sohne, Gablonz a.d.N.
    94 Unknown
    95 Adolf Scholze, Grunwald a.d.N.
    96 Unknown
    97 Unknown
    98 Rudolf Souval, Wien
    99 Schwertner & Cle., Eggenberg
    100 Rudolf Wachtler & Lange, Mittweida
    101 Rudolf Tam, Gablonz a.d.N.
    102 Philipp Turks Ww., Wien
    103 Aug. G. Tam, Gablonz a.d.N.
    104 Hein. Ulbricht's Ww., Kaufing b/Schwanenstadt
    105 Heinrich Vogt, Pforzheim
    106 Bruder Schneider A.G., Wien
    107 Carl Wild, Hamburg
    108 Arno Wallpach, Salzburg
    109 Walter & Hentein, Gablonz a.d.N.
    110 Otto Zappe, Gablonz a.d.N.
    111 Ziemer & Sohne, Oberstein
    112 Argentor Werke Rust & Hetzel, Wien
    113 Hermann Aurich, Dresden
    114 Ludwig Bertsch, Karlsruhe
    115 Unknown
    116 Frunke & Brunninghaus, Ludenscheld
    117 Hugo Lang, Wiesenthal a.N.
    118 August Menzs & Sohn, Wien
    119 Unknown
    120 Franz Petzl, Wien
    121 Unknown
    122 JJ. Stahl, Strassburg
    123 Beck, Hassinger & Co., Strassburg
    124 Rudolf Schanes, Wien
    125 Eugen Gauss, Pforzheim
    126 Eduard Hahn, Oberstein/Nahe
    127 Moritz Hausch A.G., Pforzheim
    128 S. Jablonski G.m.b.H., Posen
    129 Fritz Kohm, Pforzheim
    130 Wilh. Schroder & Co., Ludenscheld
    131 Heinrich Wander, Gablonz
    132 Franz Reischauer, Oberstein
    133 Unknown
    134 Otto Klein & Co., Hanau
    135 Julius Moser sen, Oberstein
    136 J.Wagner & Sohn, Berlin
    137 J.H. Werner, Berlin
    138 Julius Maurer, Oberstein
    139 Hymmen & Co., Ludenscheid
    140 Schauerte & Hohfeld, Ludenscheid
    141 Sohni, Heubach & Co, Oberstein
    142 A.D. Schwerdt, Stuttgart

    LDO Full License
    L/10 Deschler & Sohn, Munchen 9 Wirthstrasse 9
    L/11 Wilhelm Deumer, Ludenscheid, Postfach 161
    L/12 C.E. Junker, Berlin SW 68, Alte Jakobstr. 13
    L/13 Paul Meybauer, Berlin SW 68, Alte Jakobstr. 13
    L/14 Friedrich Orth, Wien VI/56 Schmalzhofgasse 18
    L/15 Otto Schickle, Pforzheim
    L/16 Steinhauer & Luck, Ludenscheid
    L/17 Hermann Wernstein, Jena Lobstedt
    L/18 D.H. Mayer's, Hofkunstprageanstalt, Pforzheim
    L/19 Ferkinand Hoffstatter, Bonn/Rhein Postfach 161
    L/21 Foerster & Barth, Pforzheim Tunnelstr. 71
    L/22 Rudolf Souval, Wein VII/62 Strasse Der Julikampfer 23
    L/23 Julius Maurer, Oberstein/Nahe
    L/24 Fritzzimmermann, Stuttgart-W., Silberburgstr. 58a
    L/25 A.E. Kochert, Wein 1 Neuer Markt 15
    L/52 C.F. Zimmermann, Pforzheim Dr. Fritz-Todt-Str. 55
    L/53 Hymmen & Co., Ludenscheid
    L/55 Wachtler & Lange Rudolf, Mittwaida/Sa
    L/57 Boerger & Co., Berlin SO 16 Adalbertstr. 42

    LDO Partial License
    L/26 Klein & Quenzer, Oberstein/Nahe
    L/50 Gebr. Godet & Co., Berlin W8 Jagerstr. 19
    L/51 E. Ferd. Wiedmann, Frankfurt-M. S-10 Schifferstr. 52-54
    L/53 Hymmen & Co., Ludenscheid Karlstr.
    L/54 Schauerte & Hohfeld, Ludenscheid
    L/56 Funcke & Bruninghaus,
    L/58 Glaser & Sohn, Dresden-A. Borngasse 5
    L/59 Alois Rettenmaier, Schwabisch-Gmund Parlerstr. 27
    L/60 Gustav Brehmer, Markneukirchen/SA (GB)
    L/61 Friedrich Linden, Ludenscheild (FLL)
    L/62 Werner Redo, Saarlautern
    L/63 G.H. Osang, Dresden, A-1 Neue Gasse 30
    L/64 F.A. Assmann & Sohne, Ludenscheid (A)
    L/65 Dr. Franke & Co., Ludenscheid
    L/66 A.D. Schwerdt, Stuttgart-S, Splittlerstr. 36
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    L/11 is a BWB maker & legit. Stewy S

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    Quote by Stewy S View Post
    L/11 is a BWB maker & legit. Stewy S
    By that,i mean you do see legit Makers marks on awards that the particular company never made. Hope you follow what i mean. Stewy S

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    Thanks Steven for the list!
    Is this list accurate across the board regardless of award? I have a First Class War Merit Cross that's got some numbers too.
    Sorry Stewy, I am not following you. Could you please explain?
    Thanks,
    Brian

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    has anyone seen a makers mark of a triangle with osg in it?

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    Quote by knucklehead View Post
    has anyone seen a makers mark of a triangle with osg in it?
    Can you show of a photo of it please?

    Cheers, Ade.

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    Quote by knucklehead View Post
    has anyone seen a makers mark of a triangle with osg in it?
    What type of badge/medal is the makers mark on? Pics would be tops though. Stewy S

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    I would really like to see the "67" maker marked Iron Cross in 2nd Class. I don't believe H. Krelsel of Gablonz manufactured the Iron Cross in either 1st or 2nd Class. . .

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    its on a luftwaffe observers badge but i cant get a deceint picture of it but ill keep trying

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