Mutterkreuz Bronze & Silver

**Iron Hussar** · 02-19-2015, 02:10 PM

I just took some much better photos. In the daylight you can see the blue stipling effect in the enamel, but it is much darker than the bronze cross.

**Espenlaub Militaria** · 02-19-2015 02:10 PM

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**avenger** · 02-19-2015, 03:12 PM

The "D" and "e" in Der, "t" and "r" in Mutter, all seem to have metal defects connecting them to the border of the surrounding circle. Would these errors happen on originals?

**alikat** · 02-19-2015, 03:27 PM

I would agree with Avenger's comments - the front lettering looks to be lacking the usual crispness.

**Iron Hussar** · 02-19-2015, 03:38 PM

I tend to agree, looking at other members crosses. However it also looks like that part of the cross is quite worn down (the height on the bronze lettering is taller). So I don't know anymore

**eraser619** · 02-19-2015, 09:07 PM

Based on all those small holes in the enamel and also some on the backside i think it's a fake cross.
Still i have doubt this is by far close to a original even the engraving on the back looks almost perfect the ber in the month are off.

I will ask another big mc collector what he thinks but my opinion it's a scary one

**rbminis** · 02-19-2015, 09:28 PM

My personal opinion,
Due to the dark blue enamel, lettering on the obverse, and reverse, I would attempt to send this one back.
Ralph.

**StuG III** · 02-19-2015, 10:03 PM

by avenger

The "D" and "e" in Der, "t" and "r" in Mutter, all seem to have metal defects connecting them to the border of the surrounding circle. Would these errors happen on originals?

Spot on, this was my concern as well. Plus the centre "prong" of the "E" is usually shorter than the two outer ones, no?

Tom

**Iron Hussar** · 02-19-2015, 10:13 PM

Well spotted Tom.

Sadly it looks like a fake, albeit one that is pretty close to an original. Interesting that to go to all the effort of creating a good fake, they would make mistakes like the E.

I got it with a bunch of other things, so money wise I am not out much, just annoyed. The envelope looks real, so that's always a plus

**plumbob** · 02-19-2015, 10:37 PM

would just like to show one of my crosses which I believe is a genuine cross with faulty white enamel borders for reference only, due to the discussion on this thread. which has been interesting bye the way.
Rod