From what I can see in the pictures, both look like good originals to me.
I'm not too sure about the Mothers Cross it looks a little flat from the picture you posted Morris.
THE KVK looks to be a fine original unmarked 'Deumer' at a guess
All the best
Doug
Both original and I agree with Doug on the maker of the KVK1.
This is why seperate threads are needed when items are posted. We have a KVK which doesn't belong here and a Mutterkreuz which doesn't belong in the KVK section.........
Looking for LDO marked EK2s and items relating to U-406.....
Can only comment on the mutter Kreuz. Its an original one.
Cheers
Nuno
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