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Need Help! Mutterkreuz in Gold medal real or fake?

Article about: Take a breath and relax...it's a nice original set! William

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    Default Need Help! Mutterkreuz in Gold medal real or fake?

    I just purchased this and its on the way via mail. I should have posted before buying this, but its too late! What does everyone think original or not?
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    Last edited by Adrian; 11-03-2011 at 05:33 PM. Reason: Title changed to use German terminology.

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    A very nice set Sam The cross is in great condition!

    Alfred Stubbe is one of many makers of MKs.

    Here is a list of possible makers of MK makers. Not sure how accurate this is. Someone more knowledgable may correct it

    Alois Rettenmaier Schw. Gmünd
    Afred Stubbe Berlin
    August G. Tham Gablonz
    B.H. Meyer Pforzheim
    C. E. Juncker Berlin
    C. F. Zimmermann Pforzheim
    Carl Poellath Schrobenhausen
    Deschler & Sohn München
    Ferd. Hofstätter Bonn
    F. Schmidt Gablonz a. N.
    Forster und Graf Schwäb. Gmünd
    Franz Reischauer Oberstein
    Franz Reichauer Oberstein/Nahe
    Franz Scheurle Schwäb. Gmünd
    Friedrich Linden Lüdenscheid
    Friedrich Keller Oberstein
    Friedrich Orth Wien
    G. Danner Mühlhausen/Th.
    G.H. Osang Dresden A 1
    G. Miksch Gablonz a. N.
    Gahe & Bonn Hanau
    Gebr. Godet &. Co. Berlin
    Glaser & Sohn Dresden
    Gustav Brehmer Markneukirchen
    Hans Gnad Wien VII
    Heinrich Wander Gablonz a. N.
    Karl Wurster Markneukirchen i. Sa.
    Klampt und Söhne Gablonz a. N.
    L. Bertsch Karlsruhe
    Liefergemeinschaft Pforzheimer Innungen
    Otto Zappe Gablonz a. N.
    Otto Schickle Pforzheim
    Paul Meybauer Berlin S. W. 68
    Ph. Türḱs Wwe. Wien XVI.
    Rud. Richter Schlag.
    Richard Siegel & Söhne Lüdenscheid
    Richard Sieper & Söhne Lüdenscheid
    R. Simm und Söhne Gablonz
    R. Seiboth Gablonz a. N.
    R. Stärz Gablonz a. N.
    R. Hauschild Pforzheim
    Rudolf Souval Wien
    Steinhauer & Lück Lüdenscheid
    W. Pala Gablonz
    Wächtler & Lange Mittweida
    Werner Redo Saarlautern
    Wilhelm Deumer Kom.-Ges. Lüdenscheid
    Ziemer & Söhne Oberstein
    Nick
    "In all my years as a soldier, I have never seen men fight so hard." - SS Obergruppenfuhrer Wilhelm Bittrich - Arnhem

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    Default Re: Need Help! Mother of Gold medal real or fake?

    Thank you! I was worried about buying it before posting, but I love the look of this medal!

    Sam

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    Default Re: Need Help! Mother of Gold medal real or fake?

    very nice sam the gold always looks the best well done on a good buy

    tom

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    It looks fine from the pics above Sam, post some more when you get it in hand.

    Looking for LDO marked EK2s and items relating to U-406.....

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    Default Re: Need Help! Mutterkreuz in Gold medal real or fake?

    Looks fine....

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    Did the maker of the cross stamp a mothers cross with its number? like they did with ekIIs

    cheers,
    pat

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    No, full sized crosses are never marked. There has been debate in various places about this when the odd maker marked cross turns up. The general opinion is that they are post war marked to enhance the value of an otherwise low value award. Any makers mark on a full sized cross should be considered a post war addition.
    Miniature crosses are a different thing, it is easy to find LDO marked minis. This is because they were a private purchase and not awarded. Therefore they come under the LDO regulations. This doesn't apply across the board as you can find them unmarked too!

    Looking for LDO marked EK2s and items relating to U-406.....

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    A beautiful original gold cross.
    Good buy.
    Cheers.
    Nuno

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    Looks like a nice original piece Sam. For future ref though, always post before you buy. There are many guys on here who can and will help you to come to the correct decision.

    Regards,

    Carl

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