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Ostmedaille L/15 maker-fiction?/!

Article about: hello. i would be interrested in more opinions if the L/15 otto schickle pforzheim medal is a cheat or not. i have infos from 2 books but nothing about L/15. medal is ok for sure but the rin

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    Default Ostmedaille L/15 maker-fiction?/!

    hello. i would be interrested in more opinions if the L/15 otto schickle pforzheim medal is a cheat or not. i have infos from 2 books but nothing about L/15. medal is ok for sure but the ring???

    1st one: Maker list of the book “Die Medaille Winterschlacht im Osten 1942/42 (Ostmedaille)” by Sascha Weber:

    PK-number LDO-number Company
    1 L/10 Deschler & Sohn
    3 L/11 Wilhelm Deumer
    4 L/16 Steinhauer & Lück
    5 L/17 Hermann Wernstein
    6 L/24 Fritz Zimmermann
    7 L/13 Paul Meybauer
    8 L/19 Ferdinand Hofstätter
    9 Liefergemeinschaft Pforzheimer Schmuckhersteller
    10 L/21 Förster & Barth
    11 Großmann & Co.
    12 Frank & Reif
    13 L/60 Gustav Brehmer
    14 L. Christian Lauer
    15 L/14 Friedrich Orth
    18 Karl Wurster K.G.
    19 L/51 E. Ferdinand Wiedmann
    20 L/52 C.F. Zimmermann
    23 Arbeitsgemeinschaft für Heeresbedarf in der Graveur- und Ziseleurinnung
    24 Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Hanauer Plakettenhersteller
    25 Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveur-, Gold- und Silberschmiedeinnungen
    26 L/18 B.H. Mayer Kunstprägeanstalt
    27 Anton Schenkl / Maria Schenkl
    28 Eugen Schmidthäussler
    29 Preußische Staatsmünze
    30 Hauptmünzamt Wien
    39 Rudolf Berge
    51 Eduard Görlach & Söhne
    55 J.E. Hammer & Söhne
    57 Karl Hensler
    60 Katz & Deyle
    61 Rudolf A. Karneth & Söhne
    63 Franz Klamt & Söhne
    65 L/26 Klein & Quenzer
    66 Friedrich Keller
    71 Rudolf Leukert
    73 Franz Mähnert
    76 Ernst L. Müller
    77 Bayrisches Hauptmünzamt
    80 L/63 G.H. Osang
    85 Julius Pietsch
    88 L/62 Werner Redo
    92 Josef Rückert & Sohn
    93 Richard Simm & Söhne
    98 L/58 Rudolf Souval
    100 L/55 Rudolf Wächtler & Lange
    107 Carl Wild
    108 Arno Wallpach
    109 Walter & Henlein
    110 Otto Zappe
    117 Hugo Lang
    127 Moritz Hausch AG
    138 L/23 Julius Maurer
    Arbeitsgemeinschaft Metall & Kunststoff Gablonz
    Metallwarenfabrik Posen – Hans Dieren


    and 2nd book: Maker list of the book “The Awards of the Heer – Volume I” by Dietrich Maerz and Bernd Hartmann:

    PK-number Company
    1 Deschler & Sohn
    3 Wilhelm Deumer
    4 Steinhauer & Lück
    5 Hermann Wernstein
    6 Fritz Zimmermann
    7 Paul Meybauer
    8 Ferdinand Hofstätter
    10 Förster & Barth
    11 Grossmann & Co.
    13 Gustav Brehmer
    14 Christian Lauer
    15 Friedrich Orth
    16 Alois Rettenmayer
    18 Karl Wurster KG
    19 E. Ferd Wiedmann
    20 C.F. Zimmermann
    21 Gebrüder Godet & Co.
    22 Boerger & Co
    23 Arbeitsgemeinschaft für Heeresbedarf …
    25 Arbeitsgemeinschaft der Graveure, …
    26 B.H. Mayer Kunstprägeanstalt
    28 Eugen Schmidthäussler
    29 Hauptmünzamt Berlin
    30 Hauptmünzamt Wien
    35 F.W. Assmann und Söhne
    39 Rudolf Berge
    41 Gebrüder Bender
    43 Julius Bauer & Söhne
    50 Karl Gschiermeister
    51 Eduard Görlach & Söhne
    53 Glaser & Söhne
    55 J.E. Hammer & Söhne
    57 Karl Hensler
    58 Artur Jöckel & Co.
    60 Katz & Deyle
    61 Rudolf A. Karneth
    63 Franz Klast & Söhne
    65 Klein & Quenzer
    66 Friedrich Keller
    71 Rudolf Leukert
    73 Franz Manert
    74 Carl Maurer & Sohn
    76 Ernst L. Müller
    77 Hauptmünzamt München
    80 G.H. Osang
    83 Emil Peukert
    85 Julius Pietsch
    88 Werner Redo
    92 Josef Rückert & Sohn
    93 Richard Simm & Söhne
    98 Rudolf Souval
    100 Rudolf Wächtler & Lange
    107 Carl Wild
    108 Arno Wallpach
    110 Otto Zappe
    112 Argentorwerke Rust & Hetzel
    117 Hugo Lang
    127 Moritz Hausch AG
    138 Julius Maurer
    Metallwarenfabrik Posen

    LDO-number Company
    L/55 Rudolf Wächtler & Lange
    L/57 Boerger & Co.
    L/58 Rudolf Souval
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    Last edited by Adrian; 01-20-2014 at 12:45 PM. Reason: Title changed to use German terminology.

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    the medal is fine no problems.

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    i know thats fine but the maker is not on any makers list for this type of award and i didnt find anything on the web that ooto schickle made eastern medals...

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    I dont think Otto Schickle made ostmedals.
    So either it is a postwar stamp or the ring is from another award.

    Besides that, I regard all L15 marks as possible Flochs.

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    Don't forget, Otto Schickle is L/15, not L15. Note the difference.

    L15 has been used by Floch on his post war creations and any award with this designation should be viewed with suspicion.

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