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    Hello all,

    Came across this numbered SA badge for $30. Didn't know they were ever numbered. Thinking about buying. What are your thoughts on authenticity?

    Thanks in advance

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    Nice genuine example. The early models were numbered.
    BOB

    LIFE'S LOSERS NEVER LEARN FROM THE ERROR OF THEIR WAYS.

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    Thanks bob. How much are these worth?

    Thanks.

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    its good price ok.

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    Took this from another thread here. Always found it helpful.

    Yours is a Type 2 SA Sportbadge, Not SA Defense badge.

    Hope this helps.

    Michael

    The types:

    SA Sportabzeichen – SA Sportbadge

    Typ 1. März 1934 to Januar 1935
    SA Sportabzeichen with number
    Ownership: EIGENTUM D. CHEFS D. AUSBILDUNGSWESENS

    Typ 2. 15. Februar 1935 bis Dezember 1938
    SA Sportabzeichen earlier numbered, at the start of 1937 without,
    Ownership: EIGENTUM D. SA. SPORTABZEICHEN HAUPTSTELLE



    SA Wehrabzeichen – SA Defencebadge

    Typ 1. 19 oder 21. Januar 1939 bis 1945
    SA Wehrabzeichen
    Ownership: EIGENTUM DER OBERSTEN SA. – FÜHRUNG

    Typ 2. SA Wehrabzeichen without ownership, only
    RZM (Reichszeugmeisterei) M1 and manufacturers number (only W.REDO M1/100)


    Manufacturer for SA Sportbadge - SA Sportabzeichen:

    1. L. CHR. LAUER NÜRNBERG - BERLIN ( only typ 1 )

    2. BONNER KUNSTABZ. BEDARF BONN°/ RH ( only typ 1 )

    3. E. SCHNEIDER LÜDENSCHEID ( typ 1 and typ 2 with and without number )

    4. BERG & NOLTE A.G. LÜDENSCHEID ( typ 1 and typ 2 with and without number )

    5. KARL HENSLER PFORZHEIM ( but only Typ 2 without number )



    manufacturer for SA Defencebadge - SA Wehrabzeichen:


    1. BERG & NOLTE A.G. LÜDENSCHEID ( only typ 1 )

    2. FECHLER BERNSBACH/SA ( only typ 1 )

    3. KARL HENSLER PFORZHEIM ( only typ 1 with SA Führung München)

    4. R.SIEPER & SÖHNE LÜDENSCHEID ( only typ 1 )

    5. PETZ u LORENZ J.REICHENBACH ( only typ 1 )

    6. W. REDO SAARLAUTERN ( typ 1 and typ 2 marked with RZM M1/100 )


    manufacturer for SA Defencebadge for war wounded:

    1. W. REDO SAARLAUTERN ( marked with RZM M1/100 )

    2. Deschler und Sohn ( marked with M1/52 )
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    MAP,

    I've been looking for a bit but can't find the difference berween a sports badge and the defense badge. Need to do some more digging. But thanks a lot for the great info.

    Harry, Bob,

    Thanks for your comments. I appreciate it.

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    Quote by wildkatz22 View Post
    MAP,

    I've been looking for a bit but can't find the difference berween a sports badge and the defense badge. Need to do some more digging. But thanks a lot for the great info.

    Harry, Bob,

    Thanks for your comments. I appreciate it.
    The difference is really only in the inscription on the back. I'm not really well versed in the particulars but it is my understanding that these were "owned" by the SA, thus as the responsibility of issuing departments changed so did the inscriptions.

    This is a massive oversimplifiction so please let others correct me if I'm off base on this.

    Michael
    "Please", Thank You" and proper manners appreciated

    My greatest fear is that one day I will die and my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them

    "Don't tell me these are investments if you never intend to sell anything" (Quote: Wife)

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    Thanks to MAP and everyone else for comments.

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    great piece, i have 2 without numbers and I think it is a really nice badge when it comes to the design.
    Looking for following WWII German items:
    - anything dealing with Allenstein (Olsztyn) and Wehrkreis I in East Prussia,
    - entrenching tool carrier (straight and folding),
    - forestry and hunting items,

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