Unknown Zepplin and Glider Badges? Fantasy?

[octavian]

A gentleman i know offered these to me at a very reasonable price. However, we both dont know much to the authenticity of these pieces. They are pretty cool looking, but I have never seen these. Maybe you all can have a crack at it? Thanks dudes!

[Wagriff]

The 1939 NSKK Alpine Flight may or may not be okey. Generally, most collectors look for the Brehmer Company mark on the pin plates on these. Some people claim that these 1939 unmarkeds are okey-some do not. The Zeppelin badges all look to be Very modernly produced.
See Post # 9 on the Alpine:
https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/non-c...-stuff-120518/

[octavian]

Thanks Wagriff. Very helpful. I will pass on these. At least he told me himself he did not know of authenticity. That's cool of him.

[Walkwolf]

I believe they are all bad.........

[Eric Zentner]

I would pass on all of it IMO

[kompan]

Hi octavian,
i know these Zeppelin 1933 flight of LZ-127 ""Graf Zeppelin" to Chicago USA commemorative badges manufactured by Firma Kerbach/Dresden/Germany. It was the first great Zeppelin flight after Nazis came to power in Germany and these badges are the first with Zeppelin and Nazi simbols.
Sorry, but your badges are the fakes. The genuine badges have clearer details (see to gondola!) and some made from another metall. The fake badges have also the thicker letters in the inscriptions. I show two such genuine badges from my collection for comparisons.
Best regards,
kompan.

[Adam M]

They are bad IMO as they have the coffin shaped pin plate on the back.

[Adrian]

Hello kompan and welcome to the forum.

Thank you for posting your badges. Seeing your badges and comparing to the ones in the opening post there is an apparent world of difference in execution of the details. The enamelling is of much higher quality and the wording is much finer in it's detail as well as the sharper features of the Zeppelin.

Can you post some pics of the reverses please?

[kompan]

Dear colleagues,
thanks for your greetings! I'll show the reverse side of my badges, but later, because now I'm in a trip and do not have these scans in hands. But yet also these fake badges for information.
Regard,
kompan.

[Adrian]

Thank you.

It is quite obvious that the lettering on the fake badges stands proud of the surface of the enamel whereas on the examples posted by kompan in post #6 it is flush with the enamel.