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WW2 stuff from my Grandfather

Article about: WW2 medals from my grandfather. Gen.-Kdo.II.SS-Panzer Korps.''DAS REICH" I am a brand new member on War relics forum. Thank you.

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    Welcome to the forum !!

    Must admit there are some issues with your documents , firstly when the Ostmedaille was awarded in october 1942 the II SS Panzer Korps didn't exist it wasn't formed until June 1943 in October 1942 it was still the SS-Panzer-Generalkommando , the Deutsche Kreuz in Gold doc seems to be of very poor quality and i have no idea why Himmler would have signed it when it was issued and signed by Keitel , plus i can't find any record of a Alfred Hanser is the list of SS Deutsche Kreuz in Gold Winners.

    I would very much like to see close ups of the stamp and signatures on the Deutsche Kreuz in Gold Document ,

    cheers

    Paul
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    Quote by Paul E View Post
    Welcome to the forum !!

    Must admit there are some issues with your documents , firstly when the Ostmedaille was awarded in october 1942 the II SS Panzer Korps didn't exist it wasn't formed until later in the war , the DKiG doc seems to be of very poor quality and i have no idea why Himmler would have signed it when it was issued and signed by Keitel , plus i can't find any record of a Alfred Hanser is the list of SS DKiG Winners.

    I would very much like to see close ups of the stamp and signatures on the DKiG Document ,

    cheers

    Paul
    Thank you Paul! I wondered about this, mainly the DKiG document, it just didn't seem right to me, poor quality and to have Himmler's signature didn't ring true either. I hope it gets posted down in the Paperwork forum for some closer scrutiny.........

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    Some more pictures:Hope this helps.Thank you.
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    The two signatures and stamp have the same 'tone' or 'tint',
    suggesting to me it's printed.........?
    Regards,


    Steve.

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    The ISA doesn't look right,sorry. I'd like better pics of that & the ASA if possible please. Including their reverses please,many thanks. Stewy

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    Got some more photos,do you need any more?Thank you
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    Quote by cohiba99 View Post
    Some more pictures:Hope this helps.Thank you.
    Really don't like the signatures on the Deutsche Kreuz in Gold document they do appear to be contrived , although no expert on his signature my feeling is the Himmler sig is definately not correct and the document should not have the stamp of the Reichsfuhrer SS on them as they were issued and stamped from OKH , have these documernts come directly from your grandfather ??
    Last edited by Paul D; 11-14-2011 at 11:13 PM.
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    The remains of the pin on the ASA are interesting they're usually a wire pin. Whereas yours looks like the lost part of your pin is missing,almost like it's broken away from a loop. Similar to S&L (& others) type barrell hinges. Stewy

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    Assmann ASA's are injected mouldings i believe. Stewy

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