Order of the red banner screw-back

**polishpotato** · 02-25-2017, 09:56 PM

Im about to purchase this order of the red banner off eBay, but i though the serial number looked funny.
Any opinions on this?

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**Egorka** · 02-25-2017, 10:43 PM

Hello!
I think the number is OK for this range.

My first post here.

**polishpotato** · 02-25-2017, 11:44 PM

Thanks I'm new here as well

**Adrian Stevenson** · 02-26-2017, 11:37 AM

I would not buy it.

**Philippe** · 02-26-2017, 01:19 PM

My opinion is the same as Ade .... do not buy!

**Egorka** · 02-26-2017, 02:48 PM

I would not buy this one either. At least with the photographs provided here.
But do you think it is outright fake?

The original question was about the number. And the number with this style is indeed known on original ORB. So the number is not a the reason. The reverse look kind of blury (appart from the bluriness of the photo). This is, IMHO, because the termal effects during enamel replacement.
What do you think?

**Philippe** · 02-26-2017, 07:01 PM

For me it is a fake. This is not the number to look at, but all the details .... the mark of the monetary workshop is not in conformity, it lacks typing, it is double, ..... the Number hit is not compliant either ....
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**Egorka** · 02-26-2017, 08:54 PM

by Philippe

For me it is a fake. This is not the number to look at, but all the details .... the mark of the monetary workshop is not in conformity, it lacks typing, it is double, ..... the Number hit is not compliant either ....
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Hello Philippe,
The low quality of the mint mark (f.ex. unclear and/or double marking) is not necessary sign of a fake and is known a genuine Soviet orders.

What do mean by "Number hit is not compliant either"?
Do you mean individual characteristics of the serial number, which was carved by hand?
If so, then what features don't you like? This style/hand is know in ORB of this range.

I am not insisting on anything. Just want to learn.
Regards/ Igor

**Philippe** · 02-27-2017, 01:12 PM

No worries, it is normal to ask questions and try to understand.
I let you compare the order presented on the forum and those that correspond to the good productions, page 2 on this link : ÐžÑ€Ð´ÐµÐ½ ÐšÐ ÐÐ¡ÐÐžÐ“Ðž Ð—ÐÐÐœÐ•ÐÐ˜ - 2
To learn and understand is the best. The differences are obvious.

**Egorka** · 02-28-2017, 12:29 AM

by Philippe

No worries, it is normal to ask questions and try to understand.
I let you compare the order presented on the forum and those that correspond to the good productions, page 2 on this link : ÐžÑ€Ð´ÐµÐ½ ÐšÐ*ÐÐ¡ÐÐžÐ“Ðž Ð—ÐÐÐœÐ•ÐÐ˜ - 2
To learn and understand is the best. The differences are obvious.

Yes, I know MONDVOR site. Very useful indeed. But it is not covering 100% the subject.

F.ex. do you say that double or uclear mint marks are not to be seen on genuine ORBs?
Do you say, that this numeral style is not correct and does not fit to this range of ORBs?
I say yes on both points.