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Red banner order, what is your opinion ?

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    Guys,


    I am in touch with a collector based in USA and he is selling this order of red banner :

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    Many thanks for the support

    Best regards

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    Hi,
    For me, not good. Many details are not in conformity.
    Regards.
    Philippe

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    The photos are awful. Red flag - no pun intended- for me.
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    Fellow collectors are NOT adversaries to be bested...

    ☭ "Ричик, я не понимаю, почему, почему ты тратишь деньги на эти вещи!" ☭

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    Hello Gentlemen,

    Thanks for the feedback, I will not purchase it.
    May I ask you what kind of details are not good ?

    Thanks,

    Regards,

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    Quote by RichieC View Post
    The photos are awful. Red flag - no pun intended- for me.
    Because of the poor pics I would not even bother to try and work out the details. However, things to study are the maker mark, serial number placement and format, the profile of the reverse surface and the screwpost. All these things vary between types and are very good indicators of originality. Then the detail and enamel quality on the obverse are also very relevant. I'm not saying any of these are wrong here but the pictures are so bad it is hard to tell which is why I would not even try.

    This award is quite heavily faked and often from scratch but what many collectors do not realise is that many fakes are genuine later "suspended" types that have been converted by grinding / polishing off the suspension ring, adding a screw post and altering the serial number. The very first thing I would look for is the spot where the suspension ring might have been which most always shows signs of interference under magnification.

    Collectors assume such alterations would not be cost effective which is very true in New York or London but I am given to understand that such work in Eastern Europe is still economical or at least was when many of these were done.

    What you need is to research the subject then find a dealer / seller who provides top quality clear images of everything you want plus a solid returns policy.

    An "in hand" inspection is always best with these.

    I hope this helps.

    Regards

    Mark
    "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. A man who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing he cares more about than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature with no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."

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    Gentlemen,



    Many thanks for your answer and advices. I will request some pictures for further assessment, but I will anyway follow your advices.
    Collecting soviet awards is a very tricky subject !!!

    Thanks,

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