Red banner orders

[Datrus]

I need some opinions on these Red banner orders guys. Thank you.

Regards

Lars

[Philippe]

Hi,
For me it's a fake.
I do not like the enamel, as well as the striking of the mint and the number.
It is an order that was sold on April 26 Ebay.fr.
Regards.
Philippe

[Datrus]

Thank you for the answer. I know it has some relation to to France. I just need some opinions on it. I will get some from Russia as well.

Thanks for the opinion.

Regards, Lars

[Datrus]

Anybody else please

[RichieC]

Have you bought and paid already?

I have always been skeptical when it comes to ORB 2 and up awards...

...especially if they were offered/sold at nearly the same price as ordinary ORBs.

[Auke]

Exactly. The enamel and lettering on the 2nd award look bad, and the mint mark and serial number of the 3rd award look slightly off, but I wouldn't buy anything based on these poor pictures. I heard what the seller is asking and it's less than what these two are worth, so I'd pass.

[ph3s]

I must be careful on this, cos this orders can cost you a fortune, let me put it this way: I have never seen such copies. Datrus if you want more strong opinion, we gonna need good , sharp scans , observe and reverse. I'll ask as well fellow collectors from Russia, who have more knowledge then me about 2nd + ORBs

The 2nd one has very low No. for that mint-mark tho

Scans like those

[Datrus]

I have not bought them. They are not for me actually. A friend mailed them to me for second/fourth opinion. I just try to help another guy out. None of my friends here in Russia have answered yet.

I also just came back from Denmark one hour ago.

Regards, Lars

[Philippe]

Hi,
in this group, there is also an Order of the Red Banner, 2nd award, which is a fake. The group is also completely false (except for red stars).
Link: Russian Soviet order medal group with document en vente sur eBay.fr (fin le 06-mai-12 21:13:14 Paris)
Regards.
Philippe

[ph3s]

O they are fake, Baltic fakes. I even know who makes them