WW2 Gavardiya Badge Questions

[Kilroy Was Here]

Hi, I am going to buy all 4 of these WW2 Guards badges (no fringe type) and would like to know if the small round screw attachment devices on the back of these 4 badges are also original WW2 pre 45 manufacture?

Does anyone know what the small round devices say on them?
(my overseas friends maybe)

I really like these badges, they are very appealing to me, and I was going to try collect most the different makers of these.

Does anyone know how many makers of these badges there were during WW2? Is there a reference for these facts and all the small details or different ones?

Regards, Steve

[Kilroy Was Here]

Backside of last 2 badges above...........

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Steve, they look like nice badges. I agree, one can never have enough of these

There is a Russian language book just on the subject. Although I don't have a copy. I know there are over 90 known variants of these but that is going up to the final issues made at the end of the Soviet Union.

The screwbacks look good to my untrianed eye.

Cheers, Ade.

[Kilroy Was Here]

Hi Ade, thanks for the prompt reply. The screwbacks look OK to my untrained eye also. I have heard the Estonian made badges are a fairly scarce variety. How do I tell the difference? What do I look for, do you know?

Regards, Steve

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Steve, Dimas and Richie have shown Estonian made ones, by Roman Tavast, on the forum. Checkout the pics:

https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/order...-estonia-1643/

Cheers, Ade.

[Dom]

Hello Steve ,

the reference for this type of badge is this book.
Many of these badges are no longer Screwback of origin and must be measured to know the manufacturer.
The badge Estonian is postwar it is beautiful.
Cheers

[Kilroy Was Here]

Hello Steve ,

the reference for this type of badge is this book.
Many of these badges are no longer Screwback of origin and must be measured to know the manufacturer.
The badge Estonian is postwar it is beautiful.
Cheers

Hi Dom, thanks for the info. I am afraid if the book does not come in English it will do me no good except to look at pics

I do not know what you mean "measured" do you mean the size?

Doesn't the lettering on the back of screw device tell you who made that screw device?
I know the screw devices could be changed over time and may not be original to the badge.

Regards, Steve

[Kilroy Was Here]

Hi Steve, Dimas and Richie have shown Estonian made ones, by Roman Tavast, on the forum. Checkout the pics:

https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/order...-estonia-1643/

Cheers, Ade.

Hi Ade, I read the thread, thanks, they are great looking badges. A little confused though, the silver colored screwback that says metallink, Tallin is the post war style, or late 44? Dimas says the company Roman Tavest Co. was taken over by metallink after the "war" ?

Regards, Steve

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Steve, Dimas will have to help you on that one.

Cheers, Ade.

[Dom]

Hi Dom, thanks for the info. I am afraid if the book does not come in English it will do me no good except to look at pics
I do not know what you mean "measured" do you mean the size?
Regards, Steve

Sorry, but this is the best reference I do not know any other book as accurate!
I speak of the effect size in length / width
for each manufacturer there are several variants
Cheers