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150mm shell case found

Article about: Did the M1943 fire different ammunition than the M1937 (which is what bore the German designation KH433/1 or /2)?

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    Quote by Ken10 View Post
    Sorry, that was the only picture I could find.I might be able to make new ones in a few months because I don't go there often.There were no letters or such.It was just plain metal surface and the only visible thing is that white ring.Also the bottom was pretty thick when I knocked on it.I'm from Estonia but the shell is located at my country home which is 20km away from Tartu, Estonia.Tartu is in south Estonia and I know that there were pretty heavy battles there but not so sure about my country home surroundings.
    Where are you exactly in the Tartu area ?
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

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    I'm located in a village called Vara.

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    Vara was certainly in the 1944 combat zone during the Tartu fighting !!
    The gates of hell were opened and we accepted the invitation to enter" 26/880 Lance Sgt, Edward Dyke. 26th Bn Northumberland Fusiliers , ( 3rd Tyneside Irish )

    1st July 1916

    Thought shall be the harder , heart the keener,
    Courage the greater as our strength faileth.
    Here lies our leader ,in the dust of his greatness.
    Who leaves him now , be damned forever.
    We who are old now shall not leave this Battle,
    But lie at his feet , in the dust with our leader

    House Carles at the Battle of Hastings

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    These might not be the best pictures but i hope you get the idea.It was raining so i had to make it quick.I will try to make better ones and upload them once i'm home.Internet is pretty slow and i can't do much.But still, i can't figure out whether the white ring is concrete or metal.I'll try to figure it out and also i'll take exact measures of that shell.







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    Well the reference I have shows most if not all WWII German 15cm HE shells had 2 driving bands, so it would seem they're ruled out; there was a 15,2cm shell listed for the Russian KH433/1 and /2 guns that has the same details as this shell: a clearly-defined bourrelet, a small shoulder above the driving band, one driving band, and so on- perhaps it's Russian then.
    Ohhhhh- pillage then burn...

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    It looks unfired to me due to the lack of markings on the driving band. Probably de-armed some time ago and left behind.

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    Burt
    Happiness is a belt fed weapon

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    I cleaned that white ring and it turned out to be like copper.I'll post pictures tomorrow and the length is 54 cm and I'm not so sure if width is 15 or 15,2 cm.

    Edit:
    Actually, my uncle brought us a router so i can post now .I also took pictures of that helmet.







    Helmet



    Last edited by Ken10; 08-16-2012 at 08:07 PM.

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    you are correct, the driving band would be made of copper.

    And I agree, as there are no marks on the driving band it looks like it has never been fired.

    Nice find

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    If you look at the 3rd picture then you might see a couple of "cuts" on it.There were some pieces missing on that section but the rest of the driving band was intact.It doesn't clearly show how large it is but i will make extra picture for it and post it tomorrow as it is pitch dark outside

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    I'd say it's a russian O-530 A, with top and fuze missing.
    These were shot by the 152 mm M1943 Howitser.

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