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8.8cm KWK 43 ?? Tiger shell? help needed to ID

Article about: Hi all. I ahve recently come across a piece of a shell , the bace or detonator housing , Im a bit confused cause i cant fut my finger on it.. the markings sugest its a 8.8cm KWK 43 . the rea

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    Default 8.8cm KWK 43 ?? Tiger shell? help needed to ID

    Hi all.

    I ahve recently come across a piece of a shell , the bace or detonator housing , Im a bit confused cause i cant fut my finger on it..

    the markings sugest its a 8.8cm KWK 43 . the reaserch that is been able to do sugests it might be the same munition fireed from the beautiful Tiger .

    Can any any help please? Any comments or opinions are mose valuble and welcome.

    thanks
    Nick
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    Yes, those are the markings for a king tiger round.



    KwK43 on left

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    NickVorster
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    Thanks for the feedback peter,

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    Peter,

    You have to change the primer with a C/22st. The one in your case is a C/12na (St), used in artillery type gun cases.

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    Peter,

    You have to change the primer with a C/22st. The one in your case is a C/12na (St), used in artillery type gun cases.
    Yes, you are correct. These pictures were taken when I first got the round and I did not have the correct primer to install. The stituation has since been corrected.

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    I like these tiger rounds, here a few in my collection:
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    The C22 Primer is Electric and also used on the Tiger MkI (Flak18). One thing to keep in mind though ...about 9 years ago about 100 of these Primers turned up NOS. The group was broken up and sold off everywhere ...I think I saw some on Ebay and even Manions had groupings of 4 and 5 of them. If someone is a "purist" and looking to buy an original Tiger round , compare the condition of the Round with the Primer to be sure they were originally a set and not just put together. Those C22's they found were in brand new condition so it is possible to ID them quickly.

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    Yes you're right. Collecting German ordnance is a minefield, full of traps.
    There are a lot of new like 8,8 FLAK cases on the marked, they came from Norway, and are original. Put in a new-like primer, and you have a Tiger-1 round. BTW Peter, that is a hell of a nice Ktigerround you have there!

    Look at the date of this round, manufactured half 1945! one of the latest i guess.
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    Ohh Yes ..They are out to make Money . There are also a lot of Flak 41's that came out of Norway whis a new adaptor ring screwed in and the wrong Fuze attached ..just so they could sell them.
    In a way I'm upset that I didn't buy some of those C/22's ...they were around $25 each at first. oh well

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    Not to be a downer, but do bear in mind that the KwK43 was mounted in a number of vehicles in addition to the Königstiger- the Hornisse/ Nashorn, Ferdinand/ Elefant, Jagdpanther, and even just as the Pak43, so it's definitely not a Königstiger round specifically...

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