8.8cm KWK 43 ?? Tiger shell? help needed to ID

NickVorster · 12-22-2008, 09:09 PM

Hi all.

I ahve recently come across a piece of a shell , the bace or detonator housing , Im a bit confused cause i cant fut my finger on it..

the markings sugest its a 8.8cm KWK 43 . the reaserch that is been able to do sugests it might be the same munition fireed from the beautiful Tiger .

Can any any help please? Any comments or opinions are mose valuble and welcome.

thanks
Nick

**Peter S** · 12-23-2008, 04:41 AM

Yes, those are the markings for a king tiger round.

KwK43 on left

NickVorster · 12-23-2008, 06:53 AM

Thanks for the feedback peter,

**thekees** · 01-12-2009, 05:36 PM

Peter,

You have to change the primer with a C/22st. The one in your case is a C/12na (St), used in artillery type gun cases.

**Peter S** · 01-12-2009, 06:02 PM

by thekees

Peter,

You have to change the primer with a C/22st. The one in your case is a C/12na (St), used in artillery type gun cases.

Yes, you are correct. These pictures were taken when I first got the round and I did not have the correct primer to install. The stituation has since been corrected.

**thekees** · 01-12-2009, 06:40 PM

I like these tiger rounds, here a few in my collection:

**Mike Peters** · 01-12-2009, 07:06 PM

The C22 Primer is Electric and also used on the Tiger MkI (Flak18). One thing to keep in mind though ...about 9 years ago about 100 of these Primers turned up NOS. The group was broken up and sold off everywhere ...I think I saw some on Ebay and even Manions had groupings of 4 and 5 of them. If someone is a "purist" and looking to buy an original Tiger round , compare the condition of the Round with the Primer to be sure they were originally a set and not just put together. Those C22's they found were in brand new condition so it is possible to ID them quickly.

**thekees** · 01-12-2009, 07:15 PM

Yes you're right. Collecting German ordnance is a minefield, full of traps.
There are a lot of new like 8,8 FLAK cases on the marked, they came from Norway, and are original. Put in a new-like primer, and you have a Tiger-1 round. BTW Peter, that is a hell of a nice Ktigerround you have there!

Look at the date of this round, manufactured half 1945! one of the latest i guess.

**Mike Peters** · 01-12-2009, 07:27 PM

Ohh Yes ..They are out to make Money . There are also a lot of Flak 41's that came out of Norway whis a new adaptor ring screwed in and the wrong Fuze attached ..just so they could sell them.
In a way I'm upset that I didn't buy some of those C/22's ...they were around $25 each at first. oh well

**Matt L** · 06-11-2009, 07:40 PM

Not to be a downer, but do bear in mind that the KwK43 was mounted in a number of vehicles in addition to the Königstiger- the Hornisse/ Nashorn, Ferdinand/ Elefant, Jagdpanther, and even just as the Pak43, so it's definitely not a Königstiger round specifically...